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Old 08-15-2008, 11:31 AM   #21
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I even changed doctors a while back and they put me back all the same stuff... Newest is the ambien.
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Prozac can cause trouble sleeping.

You might find this interesting: Sleep Disorders: Insomnia and Chronic Pain
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That's why I take it in the am...
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holy crap! you need to go to a specialist....that's a crazy amount of drugs and there are sure to be interactions. Have you had any sleep studies done? you might need to detox off of some of that stuff and start fresh. Some of that is bound to be driving your sleep issues.

I am not a medical doctor, but I do play one on TV.
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I am insurance lacking so most that I wanna do or need to do can't be done! Grrr oh well I will just learn to stop complaining and deal with the lonely nights! Maybe a midnight turn job.. Even tho I don't need to work fulltime...
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You sound like a medical experiment. Are they paying you?
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Prozac can cause trouble sleeping.

You might find this interesting: Sleep Disorders: Insomnia and Chronic Pain
Thank you,, very very good read... Gave me a ton of ideas! . I thought I had read everything on the subject but nope! Will try a few of the suggestions starting monday as I have to work all weekend and will be up very late anyway! Again thanks!
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Oh and just wanted to add... I think most of this is pain related. But I can remember most of my life I have been a very very light sleeper... My kids used to hate it I would catch them sneaking cookies,lol even tryin to catch santa or even tryin to sneak out! They just couldn't get away with it! As for the light part of the read.. I bought black curtians and blinds my room is pitch black! But I do notice if I go to the spare bedroom I do get a little more sleep.. Strange huh? Maybe cuz my hubby snores like a freight train!!!
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Thank you,, very very good read... Gave me a ton of ideas! . I thought I had read everything on the subject but nope! Will try a few of the suggestions starting monday as I have to work all weekend and will be up very late anyway! Again thanks!
Glad you found it useful - I sure hope it helps you out and maybe you can get off some of those medications.
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Thank you,, very very good read... Gave me a ton of ideas! . I thought I had read everything on the subject but nope! Will try a few of the suggestions starting monday as I have to work all weekend and will be up very late anyway! Again thanks!
Glad you found it useful - I sure hope it helps you out and maybe you can get off some of those medications.
Would be nice and could save me a pretty penny! Again Thanks!
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Your sleep cycle is mixed up. You have to make yourself stay awake during the day even if you haven't slept the night before.

Maybe you need something to occupy you during the day even if you don't have to work. Volunteer.. visit the elderly in nursing homes, work with animals, something to get your focus off yourself and your pain, and on to something positive. Helping others is very therapeutic, relieves stress, etc.

There non-chemical ways to deal with pain and insomnia. Check into acupuncture. It would be cheaper than all those drugs in the long run. I've had acupuncture and I know it works -- for pain and a lot of other things. Also massage therapy is helpful.

If you can do some type of aerobic exercise, that raises your endorphins -- the good hormones that relieve pain and lift your mood. People with back problems can usually use a recumbent bicycle. You could pay for a gym membership instead of so many meds. Water exercises are usually good for people with back problems too.

Edit... this is not medical advice, just suggestions to think about.
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One more thing... another WebMD article, which talks about endorphins.

11 Tips for Living With Chronic Pain

I've heard pain management doctors and back surgeons state that narcotics actually suppress the body's natural endorphins. I've seen people get off pain meds and actually have less pain than when they were on the meds. I know one guy who had a 2 level spinal fusion and was on Oxycontin for quite a while. Once he got off the pain med. started physical therapy and increased his activity, he had a lot less pain. He was actually like a different person -- much happier.
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I'm with ya styx... I was hurt on the job almost 2 years ago and I haven't been the same since. It's hard to get good sleep when your body is not comfortable and you are right Ambien is crap. Doesn't do a damn thing for me either. I usually finally crash around 4am and now we have a new puppy who starts howlin around 7am. But at least I can keep refreshing the New Posts looking for good reading here on the forums...LOL
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Styx? You're still here, right?

Your last post there ^^ makes me a little nervous.
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Oh yes! Juwaak; sorry to worry you had a really bad night all is ok!
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Phew! Sorry it was a rough night, but glad you're still with us.
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This is like BBF intervention!!

In all seriousness, I hope you get well Stix and maybe re-evaluate the meds and doctors etc.. I think that would be a great start.
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Here's something I found that lists some food choices you can make which may help. Personally, I resort to a couple of mgs of Ativan when I know I'm not going to sleep, so it's just hypocritical advice on my part. If you want to go a more natural route, you can check into Melatonin. It's a naturally occurring hormone which regulates your sleep patterns, and I imagine it's available over the counter without a prescription in the US.

From reading your post, and from your other posts talking about your car accident, I would agree with you that your main problem is pain control. I agree that you need to get a referral to a medical professional who specializes in chronic pain. I'd also recommend a manual practice osteopath over a massage therapist or any other alternative practitioner.

Good luck with everything, and sweet dreams!

Repost: Top 10 Foods to Give You a Good Nights Sleep
What is the secret to getting a solid 7 to 8 hours of sleep? (Besides using your cpap.) Head for the kitchen and enjoy one or two of these 10 foods. They relax tense muscles, quiet buzzing minds, and/or get calming, sleep-inducing hormones - serotonin and melatonin - flowing.

Bananas. They're practically a sleeping pill in a peel. In addition to a bit of soothing melatonin and serotonin, bananas contain magnesium, a muscle relaxant.

Chamomile tea. The reason chamomile is such a staple of bedtime tea blends is its mild sedating effect - it's the perfect natural antidote for restless minds/bodies.

Warm milk. It's not a myth. Milk has some tryptophan - an amino acid that has a sedative-like effect - and calcium, which helps the brain use tryptophan. Plus there's the psychological throw-back to infancy, when a warm bottle meant "relax, everything's fine."

Honey. Drizzle a little in your warm milk or herb tea. Lots of sugar is stimulating, but a little glucose tells your brain to turn off orexin, a recently discovered neurotransmitter that's linked to alertness.

Potatoes. A small baked spud won't overwhelm your GI tract, and it clears away acids that can interfere with yawn-inducing tryptophan. To up the soothing effects, mash it with warm milk.

Oatmeal. Oats are a rich source of sleep - inviting melatonin, and a small bowl of warm cereal with a splash of maple syrup is cozy - plus if you've got the munchies, it's filling too.

Almonds. A handful of these heart-healthy nuts can be snooze-inducing, as they contain both tryptophan and a nice dose of muscle-relaxing magnesium.

Flaxseeds. When life goes awry and feeling down is keeping you up, try sprinkling 2 tablespoons of these healthy little seeds on your bedtime oatmeal. They're rich in omega-3 fatty acids, a natural mood lifter.

Whole-wheat bread. A slice of toast with your tea and honey will release insulin, which helps tryptophan get to your brain, where it's converted to serotonin and quietly murmurs "time to sleep."

Turkey. It's the most famous source of tryptophan, credited with all those Thanksgiving naps. But that's actually modern folklore. Tryptophan works when your stomach's basically empty, not overstuffed, and when there are some carbs around, not tons of protein. But put a lean slice or two on some whole-wheat bread mid-evening, and you've got one of the best sleep inducers in your kitchen.


For an extra treat, here's the ultimate sleep-inducing snack...

Lullaby Muffins
Makes 12 low-fat muffins
Between the bananas, the whole wheat, and the honeyed touch of sweetness, these muffins are practically an edible lullaby.
2 cups whole-wheat pastry flour
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 tablespoon baking powder
2 large, very ripe bananas
1/3 cup applesauce
1/4 cup honey
1/2 cup milk or soy milk

Preheat oven to 350F. In a large bowl, combine the flour (make sure it's whole-wheat pastry flour or you'll produce golf balls, not muffins), salt, and baking powder. In a blender, puree the bananas; add the applesauce, honey, and milk. Blend well. Pour the banana mixture into the dry ingredients and stir until just moistened. Line muffin tins with paper muffin cups, pour in batter, and bake 30 minutes or until tops are lightly brown and slightly springy.

Nutrition Facts
Per serving:
119 calories
1g fat
2.5g protein
27g carbohydrates
10g sugars
133mg sodium
3g fiber
35mg magnesium
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