[Pinman]

Yes I do... after every update I put it back in...

[LunkHead]

I am thinking at this point it might be related to the missing service books (the app might be looking for it, even if it does not need it via wi-fi)

Have you ever had a data plan??

Here is an option to try....

Sign up for data plan, as this will download ALL the service books... Cancel the data plan the next day (will cost you like .80 cents for the one day) and make sure they add the BlackBerry Enabler Feature back on when you cancel the data plan...

I am no expert as to why these applications are working on my device and on others but not working for some.....

It's a guess at this point that it might be looking for service books even though it does not need them...

Maybe someone smarter can chime in with a better response

Kris

[Pinman]

so you can add a data plan for a day and it will only cost the price of a single day and not a month price???

[LunkHead]

T-Mobile will prorate the 19.99 for the time it is used... One day in this case...

[Pinman]

Is there no way to get the service books with out doing this...I prefer not to have to switch over my browser and everything that is already set up for Wi-fi to a blackberry set-up.

[LunkHead]

You dont need to change anything over... Just call them and the books will be sent to the device...

Wait a day and cancel it... When you cancel it, make sure they add the Blackberry Enabler Feature back on...

You cant get the books without a data plan.... Perhaps this is the reason these apps are working for some (had a data plan at one time and have the books) and not working for others (never had a data plan ie.. the books)

Kris

[LunkHead]

I will paypal you the buck to try this out as I am curious if this is the reason why some are up and some are not...

Kris

[recordsmith]

Hello,

I have been lurking for a bit and i was wondering did you ever get your email working of WIFI? I am 95% sure i want to invest in a 8320 and I want to know exactly what i can do without the Data plan. I am a student and strapped for cash. I asked a t-mobile rep whether I could get email without the email or data plan, with only WIFI, and he said I could but it seems that he was not totally informed.

Any info that will push me over the edge would be helpful. Thanks

[Pinman]

hmmm....may have to call tomorrow and get this added for a day.
Been wanting to add the games from mobile.blackberry.com also
you don't need the data plan to plan these do you?

[LunkHead]

Originally Posted by recordsmith

Hello,

I have been lurking for a bit and i was wondering did you ever get your email working of WIFI? I am 95% sure i want to invest in a 8320 and I want to know exactly what i can do without the Data plan. I am a student and strapped for cash. I asked a t-mobile rep whether I could get email without the email or data plan, with only WIFI, and he said I could but it seems that he was not totally informed.

Any info that will push me over the edge would be helpful. Thanks

You can't get email the normal BlackBerry way... What I have done is forward my email accounts to my gmail, then I use the Gmail application to check and get the mail on the device... Other than that you could check your email over the browser...

[LunkHead]

Originally Posted by Pinman

hmmm....may have to call tomorrow and get this added for a day.
Been wanting to add the games from mobile.blackberry.com also
you don't need the data plan to plan these do you?

You will not need a data plan to play the games.. You should be able to download them now via wi-fi connection...

[recordsmith]

Originally Posted by LunkHead

You can't get email the normal BlackBerry way... What I have done is forward my email accounts to my gmail, then I use the Gmail application to check and get the mail on the device... Other than that you could check your email over the browser...

Thanks Lunk,

I think that will do for now, gmail works for me. when I go to get my BB today I will sign up for the data plan to get the service books that you have previously mentioned. Man, what did we do before forums and the internet. I would completely in the dark if it weren't for you guys and this forum. The T-Mobile guy sure did not know what was going on.

Thanks again!

[Pinman]

Originally Posted by LunkHead

You will not need a data plan to play the games.. You should be able to download them now via wi-fi connection...

Over Wi-fi I can not access the mobile.blackberry.com
It says I need a plan.

[LunkHead]

You should be able to acess the BlackBerry Mobile page just fine with the W-Fi Browser...

If you check Options >> Advanced Options >> Host Routing Table

do you see Wi-Fi (##) listed???

I am really starting to believe this is a service book issue...

[Pinman]

I see Wi-fi[60]....still not working...can not access the mobile.blackberry.com

I ordered the data plan today @4pm....it is now 11pm....still no data plan....any clue how to hurry up and get the service books and browser???

[mak618]

Originally Posted by LunkHead

You dont need to change anything over... Just call them and the books will be sent to the device...

Wait a day and cancel it... When you cancel it, make sure they add the Blackberry Enabler Feature back on...

You cant get the books without a data plan.... Perhaps this is the reason these apps are working for some (had a data plan at one time and have the books) and not working for others (never had a data plan ie.. the books)

Kris

Actually I've never had the data plan, but I had T-mobile add the BlackBerry Enabler feature to my account after I read your post and that made things work. However google apps have stopped working since today evening

gmail apps is working now.. may have been a temp issue...

[mak618]

Originally Posted by Pinman

Is there no way to get the service books with out doing this...I prefer not to have to switch over my browser and everything that is already set up for Wi-fi to a blackberry set-up.

Do u have EDGE or edge and UMA or uma ?

As per a T-mobile rep that I spoke with if its in CAPS then the network is allowing connections to the network server which is essential for these applications to work. This is also the case for using them over wi-fi. (If I under stood this correctly)

Adding the BB enabler feature turned that on for me.

[Pinman]

I have everything in CAPS....still nothing.
What did you do to your phone to get the Google apps working?
without ever having the data plans?

[Pinman]

ok now I am really confused....I got the data plan finally @ 3am...11hours later....and my Gmail app still is not working....any ideas??

[LunkHead]

Go to Host Routing Table and click the menu button and select register now

Pull the battery for 30 seconds and see if that solves the issue... If not, call T-Mobile and have them resend the service books....

Also, you said you now have everything in CAPS, you should have had this before as that is what the BlackBerry Enable Feature does.... Uppercase EDGE and UMA...