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Old 09-09-2006, 05:38 PM   #1
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Does anyone know if and when BB 8100 or BB 8800 (when it is released) will be available through Bell Mobility in Toronto?

Currently the 8100 will be available through Rogers sometime in October. (I really don't want to use Rogers as the carrier).

Any information would be appreciated.

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Old 09-09-2006, 05:51 PM   #2
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8100 is GSM only right now..
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Old 09-09-2006, 11:09 PM   #3
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Next Bell Mobility BB will be the 8703e
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Old 09-10-2006, 02:46 AM   #4
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Next Bell Mobility BB will be the 8703e
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Thanks for the info re 8703e. Where did you find it? Thanks.
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Old 09-10-2006, 06:01 PM   #5
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this is one thread that mentions it. ;)

http://www.blackberryforums.com/rumo...ming-cdma.html
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Old 09-10-2006, 07:10 PM   #6
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Old 09-10-2006, 09:40 PM   #7
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Does anyone know if and when BB 8100 or BB 8800 (when it is released) will be available through Bell Mobility in Toronto? ...
Historically, there's about a year lag between RIM's GSM and CDMA hardware releases. Unless things change, we'll likely see a CDMA 8100 this time 2007.
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Old 09-10-2006, 10:26 PM   #8
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I would think 6 months minimum before a CDMA version hits the streets. A year is far more likely though.
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Old 09-29-2006, 07:23 AM   #9
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Bell is such a boring company for devices. Dont expect it for longer than a year. usually their conversion rate is a year and a half, i mean geeze you guys recently got the v3 and then JUST are planning on getting the 8703? In the world of technology it changes soo much you might has well use brick phone or go into your bmw and use your car phone if you plan on staying with bell.
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:16 PM   #10
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Bell is slow in bringing out new toys however the problem with Rogers is that you get poor reception if you are more than 100 feet from a tower. Also, they tend to charge more than Bell.
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:50 PM   #11
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I beg to differ on how if you are 100 feet away from a tower the reception is not good. It also depends what is also in the area. Some lights in builds and homes cause the bad reception and interference, it has been shown that all these factors contribute to the reception. Also Rogers had an upgrade over the summer adding more coverage.
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:09 PM   #12
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just wanted to confirm bell WILL be receiving the 8703 soon. i was with my buddy who goes to waterloo last night and he also works with RIM. he used to have the 7100 series on rogers but last night showed me his new 8703. he was saying that he loved the EV-DO functionality over EDGE on rogers.

so i have seen it with my own eyes. it DIDNT say bell on it. but it was indeed a CDMA 8700 series berry.

so its just a matter of time which i cant imagine would be that long from now

but it doesnt apply to me cuz im all for GSM and therefore rogers
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Old 10-03-2006, 09:46 PM   #13
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just wanted to confirm bell WILL be receiving the 8703 soon.
Bell launched the 8703e on September 25th. Message me if you're looking for new or upgrade pricing.

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Old 10-03-2006, 09:49 PM   #14
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Bell is such a boring company for devices ... you might has well use brick phone or go into your bmw and use your car phone if you plan on staying with bell.
Let's be fair here ... RIM produced a CDMA 87xx model in mid September and Bell had it on the shelves for the last week of September. It's not the CDMA carriers who dictate the GSM to CDMA development lag; it's just the reality of the global market.
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Bell launched the 8703e on September 25th. Message me if you're looking for new or upgrade pricing.

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see, i said i was a rogers user!
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Old 10-05-2006, 10:24 AM   #16
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just wanted to confirm bell WILL be receiving the 8703 soon. i was with my buddy who goes to waterloo last night and he also works with RIM. he used to have the 7100 series on rogers but last night showed me his new 8703. he was saying that he loved the EV-DO functionality over EDGE on rogers.
EV-DO may be nice for web browsing, but for email it really doesn't matter one way or another. And CDMA versions are useless outside of North America (which does matter to me).

Now, I'd really like to get an 8800 from Rogers with UMTS support included -- that would help make it a true world phone. But based on the specs out there that doesn't look likely. :(
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Old 10-05-2006, 04:37 PM   #17
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Let's be fair here ... RIM produced a CDMA 87xx model in mid September and Bell had it on the shelves for the last week of September. It's not the CDMA carriers who dictate the GSM to CDMA development lag; it's just the reality of the global market.
Your completly right, they do have to wait until RIM makes the device.

But its them being on CDMA thats the issue, Rogers had the cojones to switch their network to be competitive why cant the others?

And as a consumer who is going to want the most out of their devices, its up to the general public to use their buying power to put an end to CDMA. If bell or telus or whomever recieved a strong message from their customers, that they will not buy something that is going to be outdated even before it reaches market they would try to do more in either outsourcing other CDMA devices or try to muster the strength and make the much needed switch to the global standard.

I dont want to bash any company, but i think its silly when we live in an ever evolving world of technology and we are settingling for an already old model. 8700 is out, 8800 is in (err at least at xmas time). I would feel better buying something a year later than the rest of the country got their GSM units if were going to heavily discount the unit then it would be better but, no its going to be priced on par with the other BB units.

I know americans feel the same way about this, we might not agree about the war in Iraq, but we can all solidly agree that the sooner we get our little gimped up hands (blackberry induced) on new product the happier we all will be.

On a side note, I think if everyone had a blackberry there would be no need for wars.

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Old 11-01-2006, 01:53 PM   #18
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Some lights in builds and homes cause the bad reception and interference, it has been shown that all these factors contribute to the reception. Also
You are joking I hope! Thats hilarious!
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Old 11-05-2006, 03:57 PM   #19
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I was with Bell for over 12 years. I became "just a number in the money database." I switched to Rogers because of the new devices and hopefully a little more respect. Surprisingly (honestly), I have found Rogers support to be better. Very few issues. Rogers is definately the prefered network in Canada for businesses.

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Old 11-05-2006, 09:11 PM   #20
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... But its them being on CDMA thats the issue, Rogers had the cojones to switch their network to be competitive why cant the others? ... its up to the general public to use their buying power to put an end to CDMA ...
And yet, the newest evolutions of GSM technology (HSPDA, for example) are, in fact, CDMA protocols ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCDMA
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