BlackBerry Forums Support Community               

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-06-2007, 03:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: ATT
Posts: 3
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default 8820 Wifi without data plan?

Please Login to Remove!

I am looking into upgrading to the new 8820, but I was wondering if anyone knows if the WiFi will work without the data plan. I was hoping to be able to pick up an 8820 without the data plan and only use the WiFi, since most of the time I'm near a WiFi signal.

Has anyone else tried using the 8820 WiFi without a data plan? or know if it will work? I've read some articles that have said that AT&T would lock down the WiFi so it can only be used with a data connection, but most of these were written before the 8820 was released so it was more speculation than fact.

Thanks for your help!

Last edited by jayc445 : 10-06-2007 at 04:07 AM.
Offline  
Old 10-06-2007, 06:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
EPIC MOD
 
ezrunner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Virginia Beach
Model: ZED10
OS: DOS 3.1
PIN: INK STICK
Carrier: Tmobile
Posts: 12,214
Post Thanks: 9
Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts
Default

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry8700/4.2.1 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/100)

I am not certain but if we have any 8820's left at work I till test it and see what happens then report back
__________________
ZED 10
Offline  
Old 10-06-2007, 08:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
Crimson Tide Moderator
 
JSanders's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: North of the moss line
Model: 9xx0
OS: 7.0sumtin
PIN: t low
Carrier: Verizon
Posts: 41,907
Post Thanks: 60
Thanked 244 Times in 182 Posts
Default

jay, first, welcome to the Forums.

This might work, I have only seen one user here confirm it...
Blackberry Feature Enabler - UMA
Offline  
Old 10-06-2007, 10:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
BBF Moderator
 
John Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: Z30
OS: 10.2.1.x
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 34,679
Post Thanks: 4
Thanked 96 Times in 71 Posts
Default

Feature enabler is on TMobile. Not sure if AT&T has a similar feature. I do believe you can use wifi without a data plan. You won't be able to get any blackberry features like push email, BBMessenger, etc.
Offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 07:17 AM   #5 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Model: 8800
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Rogers
Posts: 12
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

I could establish internet wifi access not even putting sim card, browser was working fine
More than that, my BB could load and sync contacts, emails, calendar, notes from my laptop Outlook
Offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 02:12 PM   #6 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: ATT
Posts: 3
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Hey guys,
Thanks for all your quick replies.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 4public View Post
I could establish internet wifi access not even putting sim card, browser was working fine
More than that, my BB could load and sync contacts, emails, calendar, notes from my laptop Outlook
Excellent. I'll probably be picking one up this weekend, I'll let you know if I have the same results. Thanks again

-jay
Offline  
Old 10-12-2007, 10:21 PM   #7 (permalink)
BlackBerry God
 
LunkHead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Here
Model: 850
OS: 0.0.00001
PIN: kie swear
Carrier: USPS Priority
Posts: 10,992
Post Thanks: 160
Thanked 160 Times in 59 Posts
Default

Check this out! You can get email and BBMessenger plus other apps to work....

Push Email and BBMessenger on Wifi 8320 Without a BB Data Plan

Kris
Offline  
Old 11-02-2007, 12:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Cingular
Posts: 2
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Did anyone ever confirm that you can access Wi-Fi without a data plan? I really need to get my hands on smart phone w/ Wi-Fi since I rarely leave wifi areas. Please let me know. Also can someone give me a little clarification of what I can't do on Wi-Fi that I would be able to do on Edge/3g.

Thanks!
Offline  
Old 11-02-2007, 12:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: ATT
Posts: 3
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Hey Roar,
Yes, I was able to get to get WiFi working without a data plan, but so far I can only get the Blackberry browser to work. I've heard that google maps will work without the data plan, but I haven't been able to get the gmail application working (I get an error saying it needs a data plan to work). You can still check your mail using the browser, but it's not like the bb push email where you get notified about every new message.

I read somewhere (I'll try to find the link) that if you get the Blackberry data plan for just one day, you'll get the Service Books and then the gmail app should work (and maybe some of the other apps that require the data plan). I haven't tried this yet, but I'm thinking about it--I'll let you know if it works.

Also, if anyone else has gotten gmail or any other apps to work using only WiFi please let me know
Offline  
Old 11-03-2007, 09:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
Cisco Engineer
 
mckinneycm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Ventura, California
Model: 9700
OS: 5.0.0.421
PIN: 100001011001011000001100111011
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 3,388
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jayc445 View Post
Hey Roar,
Yes, I was able to get to get WiFi working without a data plan, but so far I can only get the Blackberry browser to work. I've heard that google maps will work without the data plan, but I haven't been able to get the gmail application working (I get an error saying it needs a data plan to work). You can still check your mail using the browser, but it's not like the bb push email where you get notified about every new message.

I read somewhere (I'll try to find the link) that if you get the Blackberry data plan for just one day, you'll get the Service Books and then the gmail app should work (and maybe some of the other apps that require the data plan). I haven't tried this yet, but I'm thinking about it--I'll let you know if it works.

Also, if anyone else has gotten gmail or any other apps to work using only WiFi please let me know
You MUST have a BB data plan for gmail and Google maps to work. It must show capital EDGE or GPRS in the upper corner.
__________________
Corey McKinney

www.coreymckinney.com
Offline  
Old 11-03-2007, 09:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
BBF Moderator
 
John Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Model: Z30
OS: 10.2.1.x
PIN: s & needles
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 34,679
Post Thanks: 4
Thanked 96 Times in 71 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mckinneycm View Post
You MUST have a BB data plan for gmail and Google maps to work. It must show capital EDGE or GPRS in the upper corner.
Not quite true. You can still get those apps to work with only TCP and no bb data plan if you have the apn settings for your carrier entered. Then you can use standard gprs cell phone plans and get access to gmail and gmaps. Getting access to it with just wifi may not work, though.

Last edited by John Clark : 11-03-2007 at 09:57 PM.
Offline  
Old 11-07-2007, 10:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 7
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Ok, so this is probably a stupid question, but I just wanted to make sure. If I use the wi-fi without a BB data plan, will I still get charged by the KB by AT&T?
Thanks
Offline  
Old 11-08-2007, 10:40 AM   #13 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: Fido
Posts: 5
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cybercow View Post
Ok, so this is probably a stupid question, but I just wanted to make sure. If I use the wi-fi without a BB data plan, will I still get charged by the KB by AT&T?
Thanks
You won't get charged. BUT, make sure that you are in Wi-Fi mode when you start browsing, otherwise you'll end up with a head banging bill from AT&T.
Offline  
Old 11-10-2007, 01:05 PM   #14 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 7
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LogicDss View Post
You won't get charged. BUT, make sure that you are in Wi-Fi mode when you start browsing, otherwise you'll end up with a head banging bill from AT&T.
When you mean wi-fi mode, do you mean when I am connected to my router? I guess what I want to know is if I am connected to a network through wi-fi how do I know that (some) packets are not being sent or received via EDGE?
Offline  
Old 11-15-2007, 02:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 7
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cybercow View Post
When you mean wi-fi mode, do you mean when I am connected to my router? I guess what I want to know is if I am connected to a network through wi-fi how do I know that (some) packets are not being sent or received via EDGE?
Well, I used the wi-fi for a bit and I am getting charged / KB by AT&T. I know I heard of someone who had gotten it to work without getting charged (I can take out my SIM card and use the wi-fi like that, but that's inconvenient), does anyone know?
Thanks
Offline  
Old 11-15-2007, 03:04 PM   #16 (permalink)
CrackBerry Addict
 
mike_187's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: US and A
Model: 8100
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 794
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

make sure the browser is set to wifi. when you go into browser configuration you can set it to wifi. if you are really paranoid i guess you can turn your mobile network off, while browsing on wifi.
__________________
-MC-
Offline  
Old 11-15-2007, 03:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 7
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mike_187 View Post
make sure the browser is set to wifi. when you go into browser configuration you can set it to wifi. if you are really paranoid i guess you can turn your mobile network off, while browsing on wifi.
Thanks. I had my browser configuration set to wifi mode already. For some reason when I had previously turned the mobile network off, it didn't let me access the internet. It works though.
Offline  
Old 04-12-2008, 01:06 AM   #18 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Winnipeg Manitoba
Model: 8320
Carrier: rogers
Posts: 3
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

????

Last edited by bounoon : 04-12-2008 at 01:10 AM.
Offline  
Old 10-15-2008, 09:44 AM   #19 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Model: 8820
PIN: N/A
Carrier: AT&T
Posts: 3
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default SOLUTION - Yes You can use WiFi without Data Plan from AT&T

The Answer is Yes. You can use WiFi service without Data Plan subscription when subscribed to AT&T phone service. You can find more information about setting up WiFi without being charged for Data at this link:
h t t p : / / w w w. e h o w . c o m/ how_4537240_using-wifi-data-plan-t.html

***SORRY ABOUT THE SPACES IN THE LINK. THIS FORUM WONT ALLOW ME TO POST LINKS BECAUSE I AM NEW USER. BUT I HAVE VALUABLE INFORMATION ON THIS LINK FOR YOU.

I have been using my 8820 for 3 months and I am not being charged for any Data usage. I use WiFi almost every day.
Offline  
Old 10-18-2008, 10:50 AM   #20 (permalink)
Thumbs Must Hurt
 
choi4096's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Philippines
Model: 9000
OS: 4.6
Carrier: Globe Telecom
Posts: 51
Post Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jayc445 View Post
I am looking into upgrading to the new 8820, but I was wondering if anyone knows if the WiFi will work without the data plan. I was hoping to be able to pick up an 8820 without the data plan and only use the WiFi, since most of the time I'm near a WiFi signal.

Has anyone else tried using the 8820 WiFi without a data plan? or know if it will work? I've read some articles that have said that AT&T would lock down the WiFi so it can only be used with a data connection, but most of these were written before the 8820 was released so it was more speculation than fact.

Thanks for your help!
I used to have an 8820 (for a short while), and yes I did manage to use some of its applications through wifi. I was able to browse using the BB browser and Operamini. I even had IM capabilities using the BeeJive 1.0.5 version. And I can use my Yahoo! Go and my Gmail app to check on emails. I am on version 4.6.

I didn't have a data account activated at that time because I was on job transition. But normally, I wouldn't really recommend using a blackberry unit without a data plan. It just doesn't make sense to me. There are a lot of phones out there that I've tried that works great without data plans; nokia e71, samsung i600 and i780. Both phones I've tried and work great with wifi and an ordinary gprs/3g/hsdpa connection.

Just my 2 cents, buddy. You probably have your own good reason.

Anyway, hope this helped.
__________________
BlackBerry WiFi is the best thing that ever happened to BB users!
Offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





Copyright 2004-2014 BlackBerryForums.com.
The names RIM and BlackBerry are registered Trademarks of BlackBerry Inc.