Blackberry Shutdown planning
I posted this in general sorry if it's been read, but I didn't get much tractic and wanted to know how other admins are preparing for this possible event?
Management at my company is getting nervous that this "shut down" will occur and I have to draft up possible solutions in the event RIM is down for a period of time. Personally I don't think it will ever come to that but that's not good enough for our CIO. Baring all US BB's are down, there are only so many solutions I'd consider. Good Seven Exchange 2003 SP2 Now has anyone rolled these out and felt it offered the same functionality / performance? I have seen the Good dog and pony show more then I can stand and frankly they are expensive. We have close to 2000 BB's and I would hate to deal with figuring out the contract side. Will carriers credit for down time, it's funny no one outside of RIM / NTP are commenting on this. I'd be interested if other admins are facing this pending "crisis" |
I don't see any shutdowns occuring, also I am not planning for it
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This was dated 10/13 from an internal 'update' document. This is only the latter part of the document, concerning contingencies.
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Thanks for the info Jibi. I doubt there will be a shut down though. I just hope this confusion doesn't delay the 8700. Of your three alternate sources, Good sounds good to me. RIMM is in a bind for sure. If they're shut down, my office will migrate to Good, and we might not be back.
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Whats the plan when NTP goes after Good ? :smile:
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From what I've "heard" Good ponied up and paid NTP so they shouldn't be next in line. We have Good coming in next week for another dog and pony show so it should be interesting and I will be pressing them.
One good thing they offer is clustering. |
Good is a company in trouble, which is unfortunate because they actually do have a rather nice product. Until Good can figure out how to get it's warez on durable handhelds, it will always be in the RIM shadows.
I don't think anybody should really be worried about US networks having to shutdown their RIM connections. RIM really is in good shape with regards to this lawsuit, and only stand to benefit further from this point on. The deal was made, NTP got greedy and now they are going to lose big time because the US courts seem to have had enough of NTP's greed in this case. As far as the courts are concerned NTP made the deal for $450M and once they saw how fast RIM jumped on that number they must have thought it was too easy and went back to appeals for more... Like a friend of Ted Rogers says... they are sucking and blowing at the same time... RIM won't get shutdown in the US... it's just typical over-reporting by our wonderful media... I swear in the media its a competition of who can exagerate the most to try and tweak peoples eyes... all of this RIM shutdown is waaay over-played, waaay blown out of proportion. I can almost guarantee that most of the people in the courtroom... judges, lawyers, maybe even NTP people themselves have Blackberry's... do you really think the judges are going to shut it down? |
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Also more US Government Officials are getting provisioned with Goodlink. Some want the newest and greatest and the Mother of this technology (RIMM) can only get but so much better ie the new 8700. We all rely heavily on this technology and would find it rather hard to adapt to this change if mobile email was removed from our hands. Good is well positioned in this market and will succeed because people love Good. It makes Good even more attractive when device makers are pre-installing devices with Goodlink and users get the same look and feel of Outlook, cross devices and platform. I am open to your opinions on this and will refrain from flaming this thread if I am not flamed. ACE |
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http://news.com.com/RIM+rivals+ink+l...3-5611431.html |
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you know whats funny..i could care less who gets the job done as long as it gets done..i need my email bottom line and a stable platform..because i refuse to use mobile windows products..i am use to buying a new device about every year or 2 so if "goodlink" is the answer i will be signing up...lmao
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Wow...
Research In Motion Loses Bid to Halt U.S. Lawsuit Proceedings Oct. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Research In Motion Ltd. lost a U.S. Supreme Court bid to block proceedings that might result in a nationwide shutdown of its BlackBerry e-mail service. U.S. Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. rejected the Canadian company's request to halt trial court proceedings while it pursues high court review of a patent-infringement finding. Research In Motion now has the option of filing the same request with a second justice. In the meantime, the case goes back to a trial judge in Richmond, Virginia, who will consider ordering a halt to U.S. sales and service. Closely held NTP Inc., a patent-licensing firm based in Arlington, Virginia, sued Research In Motion in November 2001. A year later, a federal jury in Richmond found that Research In Motion used NTP's e-mail technology without permission. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit upheld part of that finding. NTP says it plans to ask U.S. District Judge James Spencer, who presided over the 2002 trial, to reinstate an order that would halt BlackBerry service for non-government users. Waterloo, Canada-based Research In Motion also has said it will ask the judge to force NTP to abide by a $450 million settlement that fell apart in June. Even as the courts deal with the lawsuit, Research In Motion is asking the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office to cancel the NTP patents. In an initial finding, the patent office rejected all of the NTP patents although NTP has a chance to respond. The cases are NTP Inc. v. Research In Motion Ltd., 03-1615, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit (Washington), and NTP Inc. v. Research In Motion, 01cv767, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Virginia (Richmond). To contact the reporter on this story: Greg Stohr in Washington at . Last Updated: October 26, 2005 13:16 EDT http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...8&refer=canada |
i swear all this court stuff is silly..this stuff could be tied up for years.. because its in civil court..well i got my eye on a couple devices...just not sure who will offer push email service..and doesnt rim have a back up plan.. i can see them not having a back up system if the lose all together
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Actually, it is not civil court, it is federal. As for the back-up system, RIM has been touting that for awhile and it will be interesting to see how it works and any effects it han performance/security.
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Just like always, NTP comes late to the party and want the biggest piece of cake. RIM offered a settlement but NTP said that wasnt enough. I guess 450million isnt enough... |
i am sorry you are right it is federal but it is a non criminal matter so there are alot of outlets and procedures..sort of like a deathrow inmate..it could take years
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And what happens if BB service is shut down? NTP will end up with much less or nothing at all. NTP doesn't make a competing product. Lawyers (and don't even try to defend them). Extortion is such an ugly word.
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Kind of makes me wonder what all of those BlackBerry users in Congress, the Executive and Military are gonna do if there shutdown happens.
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