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Zandranna 04-27-2011 05:31 AM

Swapping Service Provider
 
Before I start please forgive me if I use the wrong terms. I"m not very knowledgeable about what is what yet. :oops:

I bought an Orange pay as you go B/Curve. Due to appalling Orange reception in my area I had my Grandson sort out getting the Blackberry opened so that I could use my Virgin pay as you go sim.

I have managed to set up the Blackberry for the change over ok until I got to the gprs? and roaming part of it.

I can make calls, send texts, and use my wifi on it, but the moment it comes to getting on the web without Wi-Fi it tells me "The network is currently unavailable, however an old version of the page is available" or it will tell me "This is a Wi-Fi service. Please ensure your device has an active Wi-Fi connection"

I went into ...

Manage Connections
Mobile Network Options
Menu
My Preferred Network List

From here on in I don't know what to do......

If I try to add Virgin it tells me the list is full and I don't know which one/s it is ok to delete to make room for Virgin.

I don't even know which services Virgin would be linked to for roaming. And I don't even know if I am on the right track even.

All I want is to be able to use Virgin to allow me to use a gprs?? connection, (using the web while out and about)

I would appreciate any help.

Zandranna 04-27-2011 06:16 AM

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Ummmm, sorry, not sure if I should have used the term 3G instead of gprs.

Motorcycle Mama 04-27-2011 11:26 AM

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Do you have a BlackBerry specific data plan?

Zandranna 04-27-2011 01:29 PM

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No I don't use any Blackberry plans.

In the past and with my old Motorola phone I have just used this Virgin pay as you go sim to receive a 3G or gprs service, not sure which it would be.

Virgin do a pay as you go £10 or £15 top up a month for so many mg a month.

I assumed just popping it in the Blackberry it would be the same.

I haven't got around to figuring out things I can use within the Blackberry itself. Those were going to be question I asked at a later date.

I thought I would ask one question at a time.

MidnightDraven 04-27-2011 01:48 PM

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Nope, you need a blackberry specific data plan to get data [gprs or 3G] on a blackberry.

Zandranna 04-27-2011 02:17 PM

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Could you please explain exactly what that is. Please remember I am a complete novice with these phones.

I only know that I don't have a Blackberry plan because I asked my Son-in-law, not because I knew or know what that is.

Are you saying I have to pay Virgin and Blackberry.

MidnightDraven 04-27-2011 03:09 PM

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You have to pay virgin extra for a blackberry data plan. You would call them up and ask about Blackberry Internet Service, they would advise you how much extra a month it is.

Zandranna 04-27-2011 04:09 PM

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Ah ha, got it!! Thank you muchly.

Love your Sheriff of Nottingham quote.

zebAdee 05-05-2011 02:21 PM

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Apologies for HiJacking this thread but I have a similar, if laughable situation. :oops:
My wife accidentally put my Virgin Mobile 8520 Blackberry through the washing machine AND tumble dryer recently.
I had a sim-free replacement supplied, swapped over the Virgin SIM and the Blackberry services switched over - no problem. 'phone working fine.
Subsequently, I have throughly dried, dismantled, cleaned and reassembled the originally fated BB, and it is working. Now, I despise throwing anything away, so I purchased an unlock code from "cell-unlock" dot com. Duly entered the code and had it accepted by the 'phone, however the Blackberry will not give me any service when various SIMs are inserted. It variously shows GSM in the top right corner, changing to an "X" occassionally and maybe "SOS" Also "Searching For Network" sometimes appears, but any call attempt results in a delay and then "Call Failed" Also if the number associated with the inserted SIM is called it is reported as "Not Available" Today I received a free T-Mobile Blackberry SIM, but this does just the same!
Can anyone shed any light on what may be the problem?

TIA
Martin

PS: Sorry for the diatribe.

MidnightDraven 05-05-2011 03:32 PM

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I would say the device is not working. It may turn on, but its obvious that its unusable.
The antenna is failing to pick up a signal, perhaps even the sim card reader is having trouble reading the sim correctly.

rambo47 05-06-2011 08:20 AM

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Either it's broken internally as far as network reception goes, or it's not really unlocked.

How do I determine if my BlackBerry is "unlocked"? - BlackBerryFAQ

Far too many of these bargain-basement unlocking services just scam you with a bogus code.

zebAdee 05-06-2011 08:52 AM

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Thanks for your input MidnightDraven & rambo47.

MidnightDraven: Here is the thing, the 'phone is picking up a signal OK. I say this because today I have taken it to a local T-Mobile store and they had my SIM / Blackberry working fine. We could make and receive calls OK after we topped it up. However, now (later) having left the store, it is not working again. I cannot see that it is not receiving a signal as it worked earlier. Signal here where I am is fine, we have another (old) nokia on T-Mobile and that works fine. Also it is reading the SIM OK, I can interrogate the SIM and see all the info.
rambo47 I entirely take your point, however, if the Blackberry accepted the unlock code would that not indicate success? Also checking as you suggest in your link, all items show "disabled" Another indication that it is unlocked, no?

Martin

rambo47 05-08-2011 03:08 PM

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If everything is reported as "disabled" then it's unlocked. Sounds to me like it's just busted. Intermittent failures are common after a good dunking and spin cycle.


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