Wanting to install 7.0 OS on a 9800 torch
Looking to install 7.0 OS on the 9800 Torch....my carrier says its not available but Ive found it and cant install it?? Any suggestions?? This is the same software that is on the 9810........
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It is not available for the 9800. Different hardware. Different device.
OS7 is only for devices that come with it installed; no devices can be upgraded to OS7. |
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If you want OS 7 you're going to have to go out and get yourself a new device. No older devices can be upgraded to OS 7. OS 7 was developed to take advantage of the new hardware. Now if you really want to brick you're old device you can continue trying to upgrade it.
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What does that have to do with shrinking market share? nada. |
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With Android devices, they could have been released with 2.1 and some are able to run 2.3. Look at the HTC Evo 4G for example. It was launched months before the 9800 with Eclair 2.1 one it and now can be updated to Gingerbread 2.3 on it. With the 9800, you will never get higher than OS6, and this is on a device that is newer than the Evo 4G. So in that sense, if there are more users that feel this way, it could be impacting their market share a little, well, until QNX devices are released. |
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RIM has made new OS versions that won't work on older kit for decades. The downside of OS7 is it's relatively short lifespan with QNX scheduled to arrive next year. But it's not what's eating at RIM's market share.
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The 9800 was not even available in Canada, the home of RIM, a year ago. It did not come out until September 30 and less than a year later it is in some sense "obsolete". This is compounded by the fact that the major carriers, Bell, Rogers and Telus require a three (not two as in the US) year contract to get a discounted price on the hardware. Rogers for one quietly extended the time period to be eligible for a new hardware upgrade to more than two years, unless you want to pay a significant penalty.
However, having said all that, why do you or I want OS 7? From what I understand the most significant feature in OS 7 is the browser which is significantly faster than in OS 6. From what I also understand, the faster browser speed is almost entirely due to the processor in the OS 7 devices being almost twice as fast as in OS 6 devices and the fact (which may also be related) that the OS 7 devices connect speed to the G3 network is twice as fast as an OS 6 device. So ultimately, even if you could port OS 7 to a 9800, I am not sure you would see much of a difference. I would love to have had my beloved original Bold 9000 using OS 6, but as it was I was always running out of application memory. It was not a devious plot by RIM to make my Bold 9000 obsolete, the hardware was inadequate to run OS 6, which is similar to my take on OS 7 on the 9800, in that while a skilled software engineer may be able to get OS 7 running on a 9800, I am not sure the hardware is up to the task in taking advantage of the innovations in OS 7. I too am waiting until 2012 for the new devices which run on QNX . However I don't know if it is an automatic given that the OS 7 devices just introduced will not run on QNX. Given the significant upgrade to the hardware on the current OS 7 devices over the OS 6 devices, I would't completely overrule a current OS 7 not working on QNX, but I would not bet the house on it. |
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However, the Bold 9000 which was introduced three years ago, was a game changer. The torch 9800 introduced a year ago was not. Imagine if the current crop of OS 7 devices had been introduced a year ago (which after all was two years after the Bold 9000). RIM would have blown the competition out of the water. That is the problem with the Playbook which is hurting RIM more that its Blackberry devices. It came out a year after the iPad and nothing new except Flash (which Android devices support) and the tethering/security of a Blackberry. RIM needs to be an innovator again, which it has not been since the Bold 9000. |
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Rim's market share is shrinking because they deliver great communication devices to a market that wants smartphones. Essentially the market is growing, and the growth is in areas Rim has no product to fill. Who wants a phone that will ALWAYS be the last to get a version of a popular OEM app, if it gets one at all? iPhone is usually first, then Android, though that will likely change. Even WP7 is going to eclipse BBOS inside of a year. It's a dinosaur. The updates are like putting lipstick on a pig. How much of a shut-in wanker would you have to be to notice an improvement, unless it was to correct a major eff up on the last "update?"
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Which is fine, until you consider how demotivating that must be for the 3 guys who still develop apps for BBOS.
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I don't know why they don't sunset BBOS, BIS, BBM, etc. on the QNX line. What's the point? The competition is trouncing BB without that baggage. They can sell BES tools for the business market and keep BBM for the third world. Here in North America, the consumer world has long since moved on.
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Another expert.
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Re Android apps for QNX, i do wonder as well about BB devs. I do have some mixed thoughts, I think that bringing Android apps to BBs sounds great as long as it doesnt compromise the device quality and security but couldnt RIM just invest more on it unless of using something baked by the competition? |
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