I'm planning on at least a 5-6 month delay. If RIM says Q4 2008, I say Q1 2009 at the earliest, and that's assuming that the expected release is early Q4. If it is late, it could easily go into Q2 2009 (exactly what we saw with 4.1.5 -- Q4 2007 release date that ended up being pushed to Q2 2008). Suffice it to say I have no confidence in RIM's release dates and refuse to get my hopes up about future releases 'till I see 'em on the download page.