[demon_xxi]

Hi.
Just to announce my software here BBTran - Universal translator software

OTA Links:
BBTran 1.2 (4.2+) OTA
BBTran 1.2 (4.1) OTA

in v1.1 added new Settings Screen to adjust connection settings.

in v1.2:
* refined Settings Screen .
* Application now hides bu default
* fixed communication bug
+ timeout setting added


It's a universal translation tool that provides easy access to various online translation & dictionary service.

For now I've implemented Google and SYSTRAN but will add more soon.
Tool should support new services onfly without update but in any case this is a first version but if needed it has autoupdate check so you'll not miss an update

Waiting for your feedback.

Sergey.

[JSanders]

**moved to Aftermarket Software section**

Thank you, and welcome to the BBForums. Feel free to check back in this thread should any users have questions about your application.

[demon_xxi]

JSanders, thanks for pointing me to the right section. I'm newbie here ;)

[rivviepop]

Very cool! It's a little bit... purple... for me (haha) but I like it. Interestingly, the word 'hello' was not found in SYSTRAN Dictionary for Spanish, but was found via Text mode. Strange, but I guess that is SYSTRAN's problem.

Sadly, if you don't have the right fonts installed you can't see the proper translation for some languages (i.e. you have a Western Europe language BlackBerry, and want to translate to Japanese). Not your fault of course, just one of those things I was hoping would magically work. Too bad it's hard to get fonts installed like that for us...

Here is a JAD file for those of us who are not on Windows - download the ZIP file from the website and unzip it, then unzip (yes, again) the BBTran_4_3.cod file inside to get BBTran.cod and BBTran-1.cod; place this JAD file, BBTran.cod and BBTran-1.cod onto your media card (drag & drop) then use the Media -> Explore tool on your BB to click the JAD file and install.

BBTran.jad

MIDlet-Name: BBTran
MIDlet-Vendor: Sergey Demyanov
MIDlet-Version: 1.0
MIDlet-Description: Language translation tool using Google and SYSTRAN
MIDlet-Jar-Size: 0
RIM-COD-URL-1: BBTran.cod
RIM-COD-Size-1: 87380
RIM-COD-URL-2: BBTran-1.cod
RIM-COD-Size-2: 1380
RIM-COD-Module-Dependencies: net_rim_cldc,net_rim_os
MicroEdition-Configuration: CLDC-1.1
MicroEdition-Profile: MIDP-2.0
Manifest-Version: 1.0

[demon_xxi]

Hey,
thanks for the jad file. I surely will add OTA installation on the site.
Had no time yesterday to turn all that autodetection of platform.

Originally Posted by rivviepop

Very cool! It's a little bit... purple... for me (haha) but I like it. Interestingly, the word 'hello' was not found in SYSTRAN Dictionary for Spanish, but was found via Text mode. Strange, but I guess that is SYSTRAN's problem.

purple ... yes it's a bit purple for my wife I wanted to create this tool without any special skinning so that it can run well using installed theme on the device but it looked so insipid for her... I like it now, but I'm open for suggestions on this topic

Yes, SYSTRAN really has no "Hello" in their shame on it. Fortunately google has hello in it's dict, that's why I creates this tool, just to be able to refer different services to be sure.

Originally Posted by rivviepop

Sadly, if you don't have the right fonts installed you can't see the proper translation for some languages (i.e. you have a Western Europe language BlackBerry, and want to translate to Japanese). Not your fault of course, just one of those things I was hoping would magically work. Too bad it's hard to get fonts installed like that for us...

Oh, this is not an issue, I tested it using arabic language. The only thing you need is to add languages you want to support to your Blackberry using Desxxx1083;xxx1077;xxx1097;xxx1079; Manager -> Application Loader. I added arabic lang and it is supported well. I can translate from and to and also it does RTL text well!
Without special languages installed you cannot see or type using them.
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Thanks for your interest. I'm going to improve it more and more. Just will be good to have a feedback on BBTran's fails or things that are missed now ;)

Sergey.

[rivviepop]

Regarding feedback, just to help with ideas - here are two webpages I use that maybe will give you ideas on features and new services:

http://translation.langenberg.com/
http://www.fa_ganfinder.com/translate/

They both have many languages that are kind of cool, the second one has a lot of them...

(note: in the above URL remove the _ character, this website is mistakenly thinking it's a swear word and putting *** charcters)

[jack55]

So this has a Spanish version? I have new neighbors. They're real nice but they don't know any English. So this could be helpful if I need to communicate with them.

[demon_xxi]

Wow,
thanks for that urls,
I'm going to add all that services and also a Lingvo. It is a good russian translator.

Also I'll do some investigation of a "suggest" mode when you do not know an exact word spelling or language. Looks like some services support it.

Originally Posted by rivviepop

Regarding feedback, just to help with ideas - here are two webpages I use that maybe will give you ideas on features and new services:

Language Translation -- English, French, German, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, Russian, Greek, Norwegian, Chinese, Japanese & Korean
http://www.fa_ganfinder.com/translate/

They both have many languages that are kind of cool, the second one has a lot of them...

(note: in the above URL remove the _ character, this website is mistakenly thinking it's a swear word and putting *** charcters)

[rivviepop]

Originally Posted by jack55

So this has a Spanish version? I have new neighbors. They're real nice but they don't know any English. So this could be helpful if I need to communicate with them.

It utilizes all the languages available by the services (think like a unit converter - you pick the 'from' and 'to'), which include Spanish amongst many others.

If you don't know any Spanish, just be careful - many online translation services sort of get it right, but they sort of get it wrong at the same time. You have to word your English very clearly to be translated; avoid slang, conjunctions, and more advanced patterns of speech - think simple and direct without ambiguous terms and it will translate better with these services.

Try and translate "cowbell" from English to Spanish - 2/3rds of online translation dictionaries will fail. Now translate "cencerro" to English, and 100% of them spit back "cowbell" correctly.

[demon_xxi]

App is not localized yet but surely will.
But is has very simple UI so I believe they can easily use it.
It does support Spanish to English for google and for SYSRAN:
Spanish <-> French
Spanish <-> English
Spanish <->Italian
Spanish <-> Portuguese

Originally Posted by jack55

So this has a Spanish version? I have new neighbors. They're real nice but they don't know any English. So this could be helpful if I need to communicate with them.

[demon_xxi]

Ok that's it.
Thanks to rivviepop for the links again.
I added a new service provider: FreeTranslation.com
Going to add more.

Btw, most online services consume SYSTRAN as basis so there is sense to support them. Like altavista babelfish. At least until url translation will arrear in BBTran.

[visortgw]

Originally Posted by demon_xxi

Ok that's it.
Thanks to rivviepop for the links again.
I added a new service provider: FreeTranslation.com
Going to add more.

Btw, most online services consume SYSTRAN as basis so there is sense to support them. Like altavista babelfish. At least until url translation will arrear in BBTran.

One word: AWESOME!

[Jaime]

Is there an ota link available? Looks awesome!

[demon_xxi]

Originally Posted by Jaime

Is there an ota link available? Looks awesome!

Going to add soon. Some troubles to support it on the web site.
As temporary solution here the links here:
BBTran 1.0 (4.1) OTA
BBTran 1.0 (4.2+) OTA

[Jaime]

I installed it and I got service unavailable. Does it work wih BIS-B?

Best,
Jaime

[dshipmon]

Originally Posted by demon_xxi

Hi.
Just to announce my software here BBTran - Universal translator software

OTA Links:
BBTran 1.0 (4.2+) OTA
BBTran 1.0 (4.1) OTA

It's a universal translation tool that provides easy access to various online translation & dictionary service.

For now I've implemented Google and SYSTRAN but will add more soon.
Tool should support new services onfly without update but in any case this is a first version but if needed it has autoupdate check so you'll not miss an update

Waiting for your feedback.

Sergey.

How to I do the OTA. I went to your web page on my BB browser and I don't see the site to get to OTA (only the zip files). Maybe my lack of knowledge is the reason.

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Disregard. I got it. Looking good. Thank you. Will let you know how it goes.

[demon_xxi]

dshipmon, do not go to the website there is no OTA links in download section there. only in blog. But now you need just open in BB browser one of the following urls here or above:
BBTran 1.0 (4.2+) OTA
BBTran 1.0 (4.1) OTA

Originally Posted by dshipmon

How to I do the OTA. I went to your web page on my BB browser and I don't see the site to get to OTA (only the zip files). Maybe my lack of knowledge is the reason.

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Disregard. I got it. Looking good. Thank you. Will let you know how it goes.

Jaime, It works for BIS. Actually I have no BES device to test but I believe it works both BIS and BES.

If you have service unavailable - try to connect again. The service is not stable yet. I do more testing and also some turning now.

Actually your "service unavailable" is also a positive feedback for me

[dshipmon]

It's working good for me.

It would be nice if it pronounced the translation (even if it means you would have to charge; I will purchase it). It may be an app out like that, but your setup looks good.

[demon_xxi]

Originally Posted by dshipmon

It's working good for me.

It would be nice if it pronounced the translation (even if it means you would have to charge; I will purchase it). It may be an app out like that, but your setup looks good.

Hm, I should think about pronunciation feature. But it seems to be very very hard especially for all that languages

I'm going to provide 2 version of BBTran later. Free and Commercial one. The only thing I want is so that Free users fill comfortable using BBTran. Perhaps there will be just a limitation for translations per day but enough for nonprofessional usage. Limitation looks reasonable because online services also have limitations and I should care not to exceed them or pay something to providers otherwise with growing number of users we'll have problems.

Anyway I'm open for suggestions and features requests because this is software not only for myself but for anyone who needs it.

[Jaime]

Are you sure that does work with BIS-B (No APN available)? I tried many times and it does not work.

Best,
Jaime