[skllndy365]

whats up with them? were they a "mess up" keyboard?

ive seen a few lately..but they have the letter "z" in the normal place, and after "Z"

[jsconyers]

They are from Germany. It was not a mistake.

Here is some more info on it QWERTZ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[Ghillie]

...and, if you have a QWERTY BB and put a Euro SIM in it, they almost always will give the message "data connection refused". I say "almost always" because there may be a provider that lets data go through on a stateside BB, but I have not encountered one that will work in two years in Germany.

A German SIM will allow voice and SMS, but no real data connection.

[zkyevolved]

Originally Posted by Ghillie

...and, if you have a QWERTY BB and put a Euro SIM in it, they almost always will give the message "data connection refused". I say "almost always" because there may be a provider that lets data go through on a stateside BB, but I have not encountered one that will work in two years in Germany.

A German SIM will allow voice and SMS, but no real data connection.

Why do they care? I mean... There are a great many companies that actually IMPORT americans, and give them blackberries. They won't allow QWERTY BB's on their networks? WHY!?!

[Perfect Storm]

Originally Posted by Ghillie

...and, if you have a QWERTY BB and put a Euro SIM in it, they almost always will give the message "data connection refused". I say "almost always" because there may be a provider that lets data go through on a stateside BB, but I have not encountered one that will work in two years in Germany.

A German SIM will allow voice and SMS, but no real data connection.

That'll happen with any device that's still locked to its original carrier.

[Ghillie]

Mine were unlocked and worked on other US carriers. When I got to Germany, I took a TMO BB to TMD and they had it in the back of the store for quite a while. It could not be made to work. I bought a TMD Pearl that was unlocked. TMD was kind enough to do it upon sale since I was going to be using a TMO SIM and they were a partner. Same result.

I'd like to know if anyone has had luck with a QWERTZ using a TMO SIM or QWERTY using TMD. I would like to move devices around a little. And I am real tired of looking for the "Y".