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lesarmitage · 12-06-2008, 01:37 PM

Hello everyone,

Any research done; seen it anywhere? What is the best Blackberry Enterprise Server deal around?

Help. Thanks in advance....

Frank Castle · 12-06-2008, 11:05 PM

Kinda like Nintendo - pretty much same pricing for BES. You might catch a break on CAL pricing with bulk device purchases though.

Dirky · 12-07-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lesarmitage

Hello everyone,

Any research done; seen it anywhere? What is the best Blackberry Enterprise Server deal around?

Help. Thanks in advance....

sorry cant help you there Les as I run my own BES on Exchange.
However you might be able to help me

Can you tell me how much extra per month you pay to vodafone for BES access from your blackberry, assuming you have it added to your service yet?

I'm with t-mobile but considering moving to vodafone for the Bold. I pay £10 per month for bes/bis access at present.

Thanks
Mike

Kriptic Katerpillar · 12-07-2008, 02:42 PM

Wirelessly posted (Katerpillars on the air!)

Hi Mike, Vodafone BES is at present £26 per month, not sure on VAT though

lesarmitage · 12-07-2008, 03:05 PM

Opality have just quoted £15/user(+VAT I guess). Cheaper than that around I think; just waiting for Mailstreet..

Dirky · 12-30-2008, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kriptic Katerpillar

Wirelessly posted (Katerpillars on the air!)

Hi Mike, Vodafone BES is at present £26 per month, not sure on VAT though

Damn thats expensive. I was considering moving from t-mobile to Vodafone but that makes it an expensive move.

skyman84 · 12-30-2008, 06:30 AM

I pay £5 a month extra on my Vodafone bill for BIS access, but it works with my BES at home.......
I also run 2 other Vodafone BB's on my home BES (a storm and 2 pearls) again, both of these have the £5 a month BIS plan, so I'm not sure if this is a fault with Vodafone or what, all I know is it works!

Go figure!

Dirky · 01-07-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by skyman84

I pay £5 a month extra on my Vodafone bill for BIS access, but it works with my BES at home.......
I also run 2 other Vodafone BB's on my home BES (a storm and 2 pearls) again, both of these have the £5 a month BIS plan, so I'm not sure if this is a fault with Vodafone or what, all I know is it works!

Go figure!

Can you access your BES server from outside your network? ie via GPRS etc?

Did you activate these in the normal way from the handsets?

Are you on a Voda business plan?

skyman84 · 01-07-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirky

Can you access your BES server from outside your network? ie via GPRS etc?

Yep

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Originally Posted by Dirky

Did you activate these in the normal way from the handsets?

I activated wirelessly

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Originally Posted by Dirky

Are you on a Voda business plan?

Nope, personal plan.

Dirky · 01-07-2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skyman84

Yep

I activated wirelessly

Nope, personal plan.

Indeed this is interesting. I had a few calls with Voda and even though I got through to their business people I often got the impression the folks did not know what they were talking about with regards to BES.

I then went in to a business store and they told me I needed a different handset for use with BES and they did not sell them in the shop, only the BIS ones!?

What I'm wondering is if I just get s BOLD with BIS and then try as you have done. If this works fine but if it does not, I'd want to just call Vodafone and have it provisioned for BES, anybody any ideas if this would work?

Thanks v much
mike

skyman84 · 01-07-2009, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirky

Indeed this is interesting. I had a few calls with Voda and even though I got through to their business people I often got the impression the folks did not know what they were talking about with regards to BES.

In all honesty, I've never really had much luck (or trouble for that matter) when calling the guys at vodafone, I've spoken to all kinds of dept's, I find that aslong as you tell them exactly what you want (BIS provisioning, or BES provisioning, have them apply the BB APN etc) then they're generally ok.

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Originally Posted by Dirky

I then went in to a business store and they told me I needed a different handset for use with BES and they did not sell them in the shop, only the BIS ones!?

I think someone's been telling you porkies! or at the very least a few half truths.
Any BB handset can be used on either/both BIS and BES, a blackberry's a blackberry's a blackberry. It's all down to how it's been provisioned.

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Originally Posted by Dirky

What I'm wondering is if I just get s BOLD with BIS and then try as you have done. If this works fine but if it does not, I'd want to just call Vodafone and have it provisioned for BES, anybody any ideas if this would work?

Almost exactly how I did it mate, however, I got my origional contract with vodafone on a standard mobile phone (P.O.S Samsung! *spits*), and managed to get my hands on a BlackBerry Pearl about half way through the contract, I just called up the standard helpdesk phone number, asked them to add the blackberry £5pm BlackBerry BIS package to my account and hey presto! It now hapily activates on my BES at home!

Jadey · 01-07-2009, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirky

I'm with t-mobile but considering moving to vodafone for the Bold. I pay £10 per month for bes/bis access at present.

My bold is t-mobile UK. Did you mean the storm?

skyman84 · 01-07-2009, 12:47 PM

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My bold is t-mobile UK. Did you mean the storm?

Fair point, Vodafone has both the Bold and the Storm. (both free on the £35 tariff).

A mate of mine is on my BES with the Storm (again, he only has the BIS package on his account!) and I do gotta say there is a little green eyed monster poking over my sholder when ever he gets it out! That touch screen just works soooooo well!

God damn it! I hate that un-written rule that says you can't buy the same phone as your mates got!! I'm thinking I might upgrade to the Bold when I'm up from renewal.

Dirky · 01-08-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by skyman84

Almost exactly how I did it mate, however, I got my origional contract with vodafone on a standard mobile phone (P.O.S Samsung! *spits*), and managed to get my hands on a BlackBerry Pearl about half way through the contract, I just called up the standard helpdesk phone number, asked them to add the blackberry £5pm BlackBerry BIS package to my account and hey presto! It now hapily activates on my BES at home!

Hmm, maybe it was the way it was added, but whatever, well done ;)
I've just ordered the Bold today with BIS (made sure they could provision BES on it in future without handset change - no problem as expected)
so should have it soon.

Also have own Exchange 2007 SP2 on Server 2008 in rack in garage

skyman84 · 01-08-2009, 08:26 AM

Grand!

May I suggest that you download https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...629448136FA820 BlackBerry Pro Server for exchange, includes 1 licence for the server and one free CAL, perfect if you're just running the one BB for yourself, and it's only about £30 per extra CAL if you know where to look!

Love BlackBerry, love Vodafone, and love it when a plan comes together!

Dirky · 01-08-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by skyman84

Grand!

May I suggest that you download https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...629448136FA820 BlackBerry Pro Server for exchange, includes 1 licence for the server and one free CAL, perfect if you're just running the one BB for yourself, and it's only about £30 per extra CAL if you know where to look!

Love BlackBerry, love Vodafone, and love it when a plan comes together!

Thanks, I'm running BES express at the moment with 3 CAL's, however I am impressed by the price you paid for your CAL's

I paid £90 for one of mine and was kindly given the other.

M

meonpeter · 01-09-2009, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by skyman84

Yep

I activated wirelessly

Nope, personal plan.

Hi, I am on Vodafone BIS and have exchange and BES hosted with Intermedia. Vodafone say I need to pay them £26p/mth to connect to the BES. I obviously cannot do it wirelessly, do you know of a workaround?

skyman84 · 01-09-2009, 08:44 AM

I don't know of a work around, all I can say is try activating you're device as it is at the moment.
If it doesn't work, then you'll need the BES provisioning.

Dirky · 01-09-2009, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by skyman84

I don't know of a work around, all I can say is try activating you're device as it is at the moment.
If it doesn't work, then you'll need the BES provisioning.

Damn, doesn't look like mine is going to work. I'm getting error in the BES log:-

GetDeviceId() did not return a PIN, PIN currently is not set for this user

Oh well, it was worth try maybe.

Dirky · 01-09-2009, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirky

Damn, doesn't look like mine is going to work. I'm getting error in the BES log:-

GetDeviceId() did not return a PIN, PIN currently is not set for this user

Oh well, it was worth try maybe.

Got a little further.

I connected the bold to the BES via USB and assigned it to the user.
It then activated fine.

When I disconnect it I can sync to the BES over wifi on the same network. However when I turn off wifi it fails.

I guess this is because BES is not provisioned on it?

D

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