[kjjb0204]

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[Berry One]

Originally Posted by jkbent

Any additional insight would be greatly appreciated.

Your situation is rather unique in the following way: your blackberry does not have reception in the office, but has it outside the office.

Is your office some military bunker deep under the ground?

I also fail to see the logic of a company providing employees with a corporate mobile device that does not work in the office. Have your boss explain you the reason they gave you blackberry?

You have two options: push your management to make your device work in the office, which could be as simple as swapping 8300 with 8320 and deploying WiFi routers; or return corporate blackberry device because you can't use it in the office. If they tell you blackberry must be used when you are on vacations or outside of office hours tell them back you will be billing overtime- and start doing it.

If you need personal device - just buy it for yourself. $15-20 a month for unlimited email for a personal blackberry shouldn't make you broke and will solve your 'tracking' problem.

[Demon]

Originally Posted by jkbent

Just a few examples:

1. Send someone a message while they're on a flight, find out when they land.
2. Send someone a message who shuts off the device at night, find out when they wake up.
3. Send someone a message on vacation to see if/when they power up the device.
4. Send someone a message who works in a location without coverage, find out when they leave the office.

Some of this "tracking" can be avoided by routine changes, but because the receipts are sent transparently many BB users are not aware this can occur.

Seems pretty silly until your boss says "I thought you said you were in the office all day..."

Any person monitoring these activities needs help. Personally, I could care less if someone knows when my flight lands or when I wake up, but that's just me. If you aren't doing anything wrong there is nothing to worry about. If you aren't in the office all day, don't tell your boss you were.

[tsac]

Wow, why worry about this when the real problem is "they" may be seeing you through your camera. I would wrap the BB in aluminum foil to keep the peeping in check. And while were at it what about that microphone? Maybe the boss is hearing every word !!!
I’m putting mine in Jello right now !!!!!

[wxboss]

Originally Posted by jkbent

Having fully discussed this issue in the 8300 Series Forum without resolution, I thought it was worth posting in this forum in hopes of finding a workaround.

Please note the following refers to DELIVERY receipts NOT Read receipts, which a BB user can disable.

If an e-mail sender has enabled the delivery receipt option in MS Outlook, BIS sends a delivery confirmation back to the sender but only once the message is physically delivered to the BB device. Delivery receipts are not sent when the device is powered down or out of a coverage area. This is done in the background and transparent to the BB user.

OK, but who cares?

Because I work in an area without BB coverage, my 8300 transparently sends delivery receipts every time I leave the office. This alerts the sender that I have left the office and the device is powered up. The same is true for air travel, vacations, etc. This is information I would prefer not to share but a user from the 8300 Forum confirmed: xxx8220;After more than an hour on the phone with RIM support, they told me this is a "feature" that can't be turned off.xxx8221;

The following options exist on my 8300:
Options/Email Settings/
Confirm Delivery: No
Confirm Read: No
Send Read Receipts: No

There is not an option for Send Delivery Receipts, hence the response from RIM support.

If these requests were separate messages they could be intercepted by a filter, but I believe the delivery request is embedded in the actual message from the sender.

Any additional insight would be greatly appreciated.

You obviously don't work in an environment where there is access control at both the entry points and exit points. Where employees have to swipe their badge to proceed.

I'm usually one of the points of contact for ER/HR when they need info about a certain employees activity and this is when I run a report on their badge activity.

Having worked in this environment for many years, I can't really sympathize with you too much here.

[aapierre]

Originally Posted by tsac

Wow, why worry about this when the real problem is "they" may be seeing you through your camera. I would wrap the BB in aluminum foil to keep the peeping in check. And while were at it what about that microphone? Maybe the boss is hearing every word !!!
I’m putting mine in Jello right now !!!!!

excellent

[aapierre]

Originally Posted by wxboss

You obviously don't work in an environment where there is access control at both the entry points and exit points. Where employees have to swipe their badge to proceed.

I'm usually one of the points of contact for ER/HR when they need info about a certain employees activity and this is when I run a report on their badge activity.

Having worked in this environment for many years, I can't really sympathize with you too much here.

being paid to inspect my bottom doesn't make it right

[TroyDBrown]

I use the the above mentioned feature frequently so I know when I can callsomeone when they get off a plane or become available. I do it via SMS.

[boiler10]

i agree with the OP. not only does it tell someone when you power-on, etc... it also shows your bb email address in the header of the delivery confirmation. for someone like me, who does not give out this address and has other email addresses pushing to bb, this is just stupid.
it's technology.. why not let the user select whether or not to send these? most of this thread is just people explaining that their preferences and tolerances to privacy issues are different. duh.
i'm on tmobile BIS and also verified there is no current way to suppress these delivered messages. anyone know who we contact to request this feature? rim? tmobile?

[dave79]

I really hate this feature, RIM should do something about it.

The fix discussed in (blackberryforums.com/general-8300-series-discussion-curve/102641-disable-delivery-receipts-8300-a. html) didnt work for me either - I want to add myself to the line of people complaining about this "feature": it is a privacy issue BIG TIME.

I was sick and told some business partners that I couldnt access to emails as I was abroad and my sim card was broken. Of course as soon as I turner on my blackberry they got my delivery confirmation: disaster!!!

This "feature" is privacy intruder.

[Goalie]

This is also my problem with this feature "it also shows your bb email address in the header of the delivery confirmation".

[dc/dc]

Originally Posted by Goalie

This is also my problem with this feature "it also shows your bb email address in the header of the delivery confirmation".

Friend, it is really not acceptable forum etiquette to post in old threads. This particular thread was started over a year ago.

[dave79]

What's the point to open a new thread when it's still an open issue?

[Goalie]

Originally Posted by dc/dc

Friend, it is really not acceptable forum etiquette to post in old threads. This particular thread was started over a year ago.

This response baffles me on so many levels.

The work around mentioned above did not work at first for me. I called Telus and they had me delete all of the service books and then resent them. The "Confirm Delivery" option came in set to YES. I changed it to NO on the three accounts that I use and then used followed the procedure from the other thread. It worked and the receipts are now stopped.

RIM is aware of this issue because the Telus rep was able to search for it on their internal site.

[EdWest]

Come on Rim, get this right.
You can do better.
Stop worrying about the SP and bump this one up.

EdWest

[CO_BBTechie]

Originally Posted by EdWest

Come on Rim, get this right.
You can do better.
Stop worrying about the SP and bump this one up.

EdWest

You do know that this isn't a RIM site right? Nor do they troll here.