[djm2]

You're right, this has been a steady encroachment of civil liberties.

[fonejunkie]

Originally Posted by jimbob_

Ron Reagan was the first US pres to appoint "Czars". Back then the War on Drugs was promised to be a "2 years max" idea. 25 years later, you guys now want to complain about czars? W Appointed something like 10 of them, including Homeland security.

Where were you guys when he decided the Feds can read your email and listen to your phone calls?

Ignorance really is bliss.

It wasn't right then... it isn't right now... but obama has taken it to extremes... 32 czars? what could they possibly all do?

It is an incredible infringement on our rights as citizens, blatantly violates the Constitution's system of checks and balances... the 'pay czar' is a scary concept and the 'green czar' is an arrogant, a-hole (Jones' own word).

[mriff]

Originally Posted by fonejunkie

It wasn't right then... it isn't right now... but obama has taken it to extremes... 32 czars? what could they possibly all do?

It is an incredible infringement on our rights as citizens, blatantly violates the Constitution's system of checks and balances... the 'pay czar' is a scary concept and the 'green czar' is an arrogant, a-hole (Jones' own word).

The Green Czar resigned. You can read why here.

Obama did not order Van Jones' resignation, adviser says - CNN.com

A quote from the article:

The decision followed an uproar over a petition Jones signed in 2004 calling for an investigation into whether government officials deliberately allowed the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks to occur.

[fonejunkie]

Yeah, I saw that yesterday... he made some comment about stepping aside for the good of the administration, though he felt he was the victim of a "smear" campaign... claims the 9/11 truther story was not true and that he didn't sign the petition... then said that he didn't fully read the petition before adding his name... typical politician...

[jimbob_]

Replying to my original message due to a fact check! Nixon Actually was the first President to refer to his top advisors and name an Energy Czar. Reagan only had 20-some czars, the number took offf with W (who had over 30).

If you look at the titles most of the high level positions have it's easy to understand why we call them Czars- besides the added benefit of getting the kooks all worked up!

Obama has added 1, who has now resigned, so the Anarchists should be calm for a while. At least until the next speech!

[test54]

Originally Posted by jimbob_

Replying to my original message due to a fact check! Nixon Actually was the first President to refer to his top advisors and name an Energy Czar. Reagan only had 20-some czars, the number took offf with W (who had over 30).

If you look at the titles most of the high level positions have it's easy to understand why we call them Czars- besides the added benefit of getting the kooks all worked up!

Obama has added 1, who has now resigned, so the Anarchists should be calm for a while. At least until the next speech!

good post.