[Pearl Buddy]

Originally Posted by archer6

I for one, do not believe there will be a "Perfect All In Once Device".

im thinking something along the lines of a phone that is the exact size and flexibility as a credit card. it feels just like a credit card, one side is all touchscreen, it runs windows vista, built in wifi-n and has 1 terabyte of storage. that would be perfect for me. i dont think they are trying such a combination though...

[Galvatron]

Lol godd luclk on tha ton winmo an symbian leave yopu vunerable to cabir viruses not to mention skulls and the metal gearsolid virus. Nothanx

[Fungineer]

Originally Posted by Galvatron

Future devices will still be quad band they have to be. Thast industry standerd hopfully the durabiltuy factor dos not go down either I'm betting the 8800 might be the device they eithe releasi in jan or duirring the summer time.

Quadband EDGE is standard, Quadband UMTS is something totally different. There are five recognized frequency bands that UMTS will operate in, and until we see UMTS coverage eclipse EDGE coverage, phone manufacturers will have to support UMTS/EDGE devices, which means you're potentially looking at two radios operating on (i think) 7 different frequencies. Throw in GPS, dual-band WLAN, Bluetooth and you're up to 10 frequencies, spread across a multitude of antennas (no single antenna is going to give you a good response across almost 6GHz of spectrum).

All that means is I would expect RIM to offer (first) an EDGE/UMTS device with quad-band EDGE and dual- or tri-band UMTS (2100, 1900, 850), with TMobile getting the shaft on their 1700.

[dapoktan]

battery battery battery, in this day and age, is 4hrs talk time all we can get?
With cell phones and laptops being so popular these days, isnt it time that better battery solutions are developed?
The life on these laptops and 3G phones are really kind of sad...

[MobileRC]

Until they improve the web browsing and attachment experience, it is likely I wouldnt find a whole lot of use for an HSDPA blackberry, but thats just me.

[Jack T. Chance]

Originally Posted by MobileRC

Until they improve the web browsing and attachment experience, it is likely I wouldnt find a whole lot of use for an HSDPA blackberry, but thats just me.

Well, the web browsing experience is great IMHO, but then again, I've learned how to use the Internet Browser's settings and options to maximum effect, so that I get the best browsing experience possible.

But there are 2 much more important benefits that will come from having an HSDPA/UMTS-equipped :

1. The ability to use your 3G as a tethered modem for a laptop or PC, to get true broadband speed wirelessly!
2. The ability to use voice and data SIMULTANEOUSLY! One of the biggest problems with EDGE and EV-DO s is that data use blocks incoming phone calls. So, if you're tethering the to your computer and doing a large download, someone trying to call you will go straight to voice mail. This could be a problem if you're needing to receive an important call. But with HSDPA/UMTS, this limitation is finally supposed to go away.

It's because of those 2 reasons that I can't wait to get my hands on a GSM 3G ! Too bad RIM still hasn't released one for Cingular/at&t. The ability to buy the rumored 3G 8710 might have caused me to choose Cingular/at&t as my new carrier, rather than T-Mobile. But Cingular/at&t and RIM have dragged their feet for far too long in regards to bringing such a to the States.

[brandbb]

Originally Posted by Jack T. Chance

[*]The ability to use voice and data SIMULTANEOUSLY! One of the biggest problems with EDGE and EV-DO s is that data use blocks incoming phone calls. So, if you're tethering the to your computer and doing a large download, someone trying to call you will go straight to voice mail. This could be a problem if you're needing to receive an important call. But with HSDPA/UMTS, this limitation is finally supposed to go away. 8

Huh never happened to me.

I tether with an 8700c all the time. Connection is paused until i end my call.

But tethering, along with the possibilities of using my slingbox on the bb are the main reasons I would like a 3g bb asap.

[cmpugh]

Originally Posted by brandbb

Huh never happened to me.

I tether with an 8700c all the time. Connection is paused until i end my call.

But tethering, along with the possibilities of using my slingbox on the bb are the main reasons I would like a 3g bb asap.

Same with my Verizon 8703e... it stops my data, and takes the call.

But the ability to do both simultaneously would be incredible.

[archer6]

Originally Posted by cmpugh

Same with my Verizon 8703e... it stops my data, and takes the call.

Same with my Cingular 8700c & 7130c... it stops my data, and takes the call.

However the problem I have when it picks up the call, is it shuts off the ignition system so my car dies and I'm forced to pull over to take the call.....

[backbeat]

Originally Posted by cmpugh

Same with my Verizon 8703e... it stops my data, and takes the call.

But the ability to do both simultaneously would be incredible.

If on an EV-DO system at the time, isn't your data session resumed once you end your call?

[omkhar]

Originally Posted by backbeat

If on an EV-DO system at the time, isn't your data session resumed once you end your call?

It works that way will Bell.... but I agree the ability to do both voice and data simulatenously would be great.

[backbeat]

Originally Posted by omkhar

It works that way will Bell.... but I agree the ability to do both voice and data simulatenously would be great.

Chalk it up to bad provisioning by Verizon, I suppose, but I had a PPC phone a couple years ago (and I'm sorry about that ) which would give me wireless sync email/calendar notifications as well as let me open my browser and surf while on a call about 75% of the time. Although the phone was EV-DO hardware capable, there was no EV-DO network yet available. It was a bit freakish but cool, nonetheless.

[CUSTEL]

I just purchased a treo750 for the simultanious data/voice does anyone know an accurate release date for this?

[archer6]

This is a BlackBerry Forum.

[backbeat]

Originally Posted by CUSTEL

I just purchased a treo750 for the simultanious data/voice does anyone know an accurate release date for this?

No, there is no verified release date yet for HSDPA blackberry.

[nsimpson]

Rogers is launching their HSDPA BB in Q4

[Outrigger]

Originally Posted by Pearl Buddy

im thinking something along the lines of a phone that is the exact size and flexibility as a credit card. it feels just like a credit card, one side is all touchscreen, it runs windows vista, built in wifi-n and has 1 terabyte of storage. that would be perfect for me. i dont think they are trying such a combination though...

it might look nice but holding something the size of a credit card thats all touch screen would be horrible that few if any one would find practical. just try taking a credit card and putting it against your ear. and running vista and 1 tb of storage with built in wifi? you're more likely to see flying cars before something like this would ever happen.

[Dark Knight]

Originally Posted by nsimpson

Rogers is launching their HSDPA BB in Q4

HSDPA (3G) on Rogers will officially roll out March 19, 2007 with devices and plans. Though HSDPA will first launch with major cities such as Toronto and Vancouver and later Nation wide. Unfortunately RIM doesn't have a 3G device at this time. The "Canuck" aka: RIM 8800 coming to Rogers soon is EDGE capable, not HSDPA. I do hope RIM can see the benefit of releasing the next Blackberry (full Qwerty keyboard, camera and GPS) with 3G support before Q3 let alone Q4, 2007.

[nsimpson]

Originally Posted by Dark Knight

HSDPA (3G) on Rogers will officially roll out March 19, 2007 with devices and plans. Though HSDPA will first launch with major cities such as Toronto and Vancouver and later Nation wide. Unfortunately RIM doesn't have a 3G device at this time. The "Canuck" aka: RIM 8800 coming to Rogers soon is EDGE capable, not HSDPA. I do hope RIM can see the benefit of releasing the next Blackberry (full Qwerty keyboard, camera and GPS) with 3G support before Q3 let alone Q4, 2007.

Dark Knight
i know what im talking about, I work for Rogers. The system HSDPA is already out and running, Toronto was up and running months ago (and was publically annouced that it was) and in Vancouver its just finished testing coverage areas.

I know what the 8800 has and when it is going to be released (as do 99% of people who post here on this site). Heck its already out in the states and there has been lengthy threads about what it includes and what it doesnt include.

In Q4,Rogers will be picking up an hsdpa blackberry unit the (9XXX series). We will be coming out with the unit sooner if the HTC hsdpa units arent ready in time (Q2-3). Apparently word from RIM is that they are ready to ship sooner than Q4 but Rogers doesnt want to put out that many 3G units all at once so they will be staggering the releases.

[The MVPlaya]

Originally Posted by nsimpson

Dark Knight
i know what im talking about, I work for Rogers. The system HSDPA is already out and running, Toronto was up and running months ago (and was publically annouced that it was) and in Vancouver its just finished testing coverage areas.

I know what the 8800 has and when it is going to be released (as do 99% of people who post here on this site). Heck its already out in the states and there has been lengthy threads about what it includes and what it doesnt include.

In Q4,Rogers will be picking up an hsdpa blackberry unit the (9XXX series). We will be coming out with the unit sooner if the HTC hsdpa units arent ready in time (Q2-3). Apparently word from RIM is that they are ready to ship sooner than Q4 but Rogers doesnt want to put out that many 3G units all at once so they will be staggering the releases.

If Rogers will be getting it Q4, Cingular should have it near the same time or sooner...