[WorldIRC]

Originally Posted by John Clark

Actually, yes it's tied to vendor ID. We remove the association for OS loading to the vendor ID. We don't/can't remove the vendor ID on the device itself. This ID does determine how the OS is loaded to the device and what options are enabled/added.

Correct. The vendor ID..for example is what chooses what vendor themes will load. When we modify the Blackberry.alx file, we simply tell the loader to install all the themes since they are no longer "tied to specific vendors" as per the ALX file.

As for options such as UMA and what not, those are not modifiable in the OS itself and it is the Vendor Code which chooses to enable or disable those features.

Because the engineering OS is not tied to a vendor, all options, including the added engineering menus, are added to the functionality of the device unlocking any and all features within the device.

When I was playing with the Kickstart a couple of months ago, the Engineering menus were enabled. Lots of different field testing, UMA on or off capabilities etc..

[John Clark]

Sure would be nice to get access to that!

[WorldIRC]

I have a friend who works for RIM. He must go through 3 people to get "access" to the install dongle for 20 minutes.

[TTune]

If you're desperately curious you can get the vendor ID (at least on a Bold) by using the Alt-RightShift-H combination [aka Help screen] - it's the first line.

[greggebhardt]

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry

And I am quite sure the original poster is not one of them. And Greg isn't one of them either.

and never did I indicate I was.

Sounds like dongle jealousy!

[estabulla]

Originally Posted by TTune

If you're desperately curious you can get the vendor ID (at least on a Bold) by using the Alt-RightShift-H combination [aka Help screen] - it's the first line.

That's a cool shortcut. Thanks TTune. You learn something new everyday!