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Old 03-19-2012, 10:17 AM   #21
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You will make a new database for the new server. Then use transporter to move user from old to new database.

you will need to uprade old BES to SP 7 to use transporter with BES 5 SP3. it is fairly simply updrage to do. install SP and reboot, take about 20-30 min. Dont forget to backup database before you begin.
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Old 03-19-2012, 10:24 AM   #22
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Migration kit is different from blackberry enterprise transporter tool. BET tool is part of the resource kit:
https://swdownloads.blackberry.com/D...C1D6CE93DC54B8
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Migration kit is different from blackberry enterprise transporter tool.
Oh, I see. I thought the transporter tool was part of the Migration Kit. Won't I need an additional SRP in order to make use of the transporter tool? Isn't that included in the Migration Kit?
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KB10945-What is a BlackBerry Enterprise Server migration kit
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Hi guys,

Just looking things over here, I see there is also a tool called BES Cutover Tool. It sounds like it's just about the same as Transporter but more targeted for my situation. Any comments?

EDIT: Found the reason not to use Cutover Tool.

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Platform: Use this tool with BlackBerry Enterprise Server for IBM Lotus Domino only.


Will either the transporter or the cutover tool allow me to use the same CALs?

EDIT: I'm on a roll here, it looks like since we're using a full Enterprise version our CALs are good for transfer.

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Old 03-21-2012, 08:32 AM   #26
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Click on BlackBerry Domain on the left pane.
Then in the right pane, select the 'Global' tab, expand 'Account', and choose 'License Management'.
You should see:
License Total:
Used:
Free:

or

From command-line, you can do the following:

bcp "select LicenseKey from BESMgmt.dbo.LicenseKeys where type = 0" queryout c:\licensekeys.txt -c -T -R -E -Sdbservername

That will export all installed license keys to the text file specified in the command. Just be sure to change dbservername to your SQL/MSDE server. This needs to be run from a server/machine that has bcp.exe installed, though (installed by default with SQL and MSDE installations).


Cals can be trasnfered to the new BES with out issue.
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The funny part is Knotty, part of what confirmed that I could do this was a post you made I found, probably from years ago, where you posted the exact same solution.

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The migration kit can be downloaded at blackberry.com/besc. Click on tools-blackberry migration kit. It takes like three to five days to be emailed to you in an adobe attachment. As far as upgrading MSDE with the transporter tool.... There's no need. The transporter tool only requires the database to online.
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The migration kit can be downloaded at blackberry.com/besc. Click on tools-blackberry migration kit. It takes like three to five days to be emailed to you in an adobe attachment. As far as upgrading MSDE with the transporter tool.... There's no need. The transporter tool only requires the database to online.
Thats if you have current T support.

As for MSDE, it is usually not enabled for TCP/IP or named pipes for remote connections but works fine locally.
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As far as upgrading MSDE with the transporter tool.... There's no need.
I have the printed documentation here in front of me, it says the following database servers (source and destination) are supported by the latest Transporter Tool:

Microsoft SQL Server 2005 SP2
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 SP3
Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Express Edition SP2
Microsoft SQL Server 2008 SP1
Microsoft SQL Server 2008 Express Edition SP1
Microsoft SQL Server 2008 SP2 (32 and 64 bit)
Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2
Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Express Edition (What we'll be going with on the new server).

No mention of MSDE (it was rebranded as Express starting in 2005, though).
So are you saying perhaps I could use the transporter tool with MSDE but its simply not officially supported?

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stop all bes services and upgrade to SQL express

Upgrading MSDE 2000 to SQL Server 2005 Express

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To KnottyRope or anyone else who might be interested:

I wanted to save myself some trouble before upgrading the old database server to SQL 2005 and test whether or not I could use the transporter tool with MSDE 2000 on the source.

I successfully moved a single user, so while it's not a RIM supported database type anymore, my preliminary test seems to say it stilll works in practice flawlessly.
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hardest part is getting MSDE to talk to transporter and too many people dont know command lines anymore to get TCP/IP, named pipes setup or they forget the SA password.
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Yes, I read MSDE could be a little finicky when it comes to external connections, so I sort of circumvented that by installing the transporter on the source (which was the one that had MSDE on it).
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Hi, I've got a supplementary question.

So after reading all of your posts thoroughly, I've decided the use of the migration kit/transporter tool would be best.

I was wondering what I would be doing with the database in this case. Our current database (MSDE) is residing on the same server as the 4.1.6 BES, which we will be retiring.

Now, is this going to be just as simple as creating a new database on the new server and using the migration kit to move the old stuff over or will I have to upgarde the old database (for compatability with 5.0.3 and SQL Server Express) and fully move it to the new server?

Also, where can I get my hands on the Migration Kit? So far our provider doesn't seem to know what I'm referring to.
You will need to request migration kit from RIM (it free). Also my understanding of the transporter tool is that it is designed to transfer user information between 2 existing databases even if they are different versions (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
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You will need to request migration kit from RIM (it free). Also my understanding of the transporter tool is that it is designed to transfer user information between 2 existing databases even if they are different versions (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
I guess it would help if I read the rest of the thread and saw that you already got the answer...
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You will need to request migration kit from RIM (it free). Also my understanding of the transporter tool is that it is designed to transfer user information between 2 existing databases even if they are different versions (someone correct me if I'm wrong).
Its free if you have paid for T support.

And yes transporter does work from 4.0.7 to BES 5
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