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torberry · 09-08-2008, 11:34 AM

While traveling in the US recently I was using my BOLD on the t-mobile network, ie 2G/EDGE. I found that it loaded web pages just as fast as when on 3G on Rogers. My conclusion is that 3G is really just a myth and not noticeably faster than 2G. The difference in speed then from the Curve to the BOLD is related to the faster processor.

Also, I noticed how ridiculously better Rogers (coverage, clarity) is than t-mobile. Although we pay through the nose in Canada I really think that Rogers has a superior network.

Dorian · 09-08-2008, 11:55 AM

Sorry, cannot agree with you at all.

test54 · 09-08-2008, 12:58 PM

3G is clearly faster. if you don't notice any difference then there is problem with network/device/app or you.

torberry · 09-08-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by test54

3G is clearly faster. if you don't notice any difference then there is problem with network/device/app or you.

I agree that it is faster than EDGE. I don't agree that it is much faster than EDGE. I think my point is that the big difference is the actual device, not the 3G network. I'm in Toronto, Rogers HQ, so I would assume that the coverage here is pretty strong.

Shaun · 09-08-2008, 01:39 PM

So you are making this assertion based on the performance of a single device, and a device that is having rapid fire firmware revisions? I hope no one takes this thread too seriously.

torberry · 09-08-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shaun27612

So you are making this assertion based on the performance of a single device, and a device that is having rapid fire firmware revisions? I hope no one takes this thread too seriously.

It appears that you are in the US and therefore not in a position to offer an opinion. I have used my BOLD on both the Rogers 3G network and the t-mobile 2G network. It is my conclusion, based on my 1 device, that the 3G network is not significantly faster for web browsing. Whereas, when connected to a Wifi network, the device is much faster.

akc786 · 09-08-2008, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by torberry

It appears that you are in the US and therefore not in a position to offer an opinion. I have used my BOLD on both the Rogers 3G network and the t-mobile 2G network. It is my conclusion, based on my 1 device, that the 3G network is not significantly faster for web browsing. Whereas, when connected to a Wifi network, the device is much faster.

I agree with you.

adamatwlu · 09-08-2008, 02:08 PM

I agree with "torberry". I was in the states recently and I found that the 3G was not any faster then EDGE. I also found that the 3G network in the states on AT&T kept dropping calls whereas I never had that issue to date on Rogers in Canada. Not sure what would be causing the dropped calls in the US vs. Canada.

Shaun · 09-08-2008, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by torberry

It appears that you are in the US and therefore not in a position to offer an opinion. I have used my BOLD on both the Rogers 3G network and the t-mobile 2G network. It is my conclusion, based on my 1 device, that the 3G network is not significantly faster for web browsing. Whereas, when connected to a Wifi network, the device is much faster.

You are right, us folks here in the states have no way to know what this 3G thing is all about. Especially since there are no other 3G devices available... oh wait, there is? Oh, maybe that is where my opinion is coming from... or maybe from the dozens of people that I know in Canada that own a Bold.

greggebhardt · 09-08-2008, 02:39 PM

Like I have said before my Bold on 3G is faster, not a little but alot! If you is not then you got crap for reception.

The speed of 3G is not a myth when what used to take 15-20 seconds on EDGE to load up does it in 5-6 second on 3G.

ifonline · 09-08-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by torberry

It appears that you are in the US and therefore not in a position to offer an opinion.

Wow... I don't know what to say except just... wow.

No, wait... I do know what to say. It's not every day that I get to see such a fine example of short-sighted, unintelligent commenting. Just as you have assumed that those of us in the United States couldn't possibly travel outside of the United States or have any experience with products and services outside of the United States, I will assume that you are not terribly smart and therefore overcompensate for your lack of intelligence as evidenced by your post.

Fair?

test54 · 09-08-2008, 02:45 PM

yeah ifonline I saw that as well. perhaps he was just being overly defensive.

Shaun · 09-08-2008, 02:52 PM

I do appreciate the 3G is not that fast point of view from people that had inflated expectations... like edge to 3G is the same proportionate speed increase as Dialup to Internet2. Sure there is going to be some disappointment. To say that 3G is a myth based on a single device... well there isn't much to say about that.

crazylegs · 09-08-2008, 03:00 PM

I have to agree with this post. My Bold (unlocked Rogers on ATT in DC) isn't much faster than on 3G vs EDGE. It is definitely faster, but not by enough to want to put up with 1 day battery and constant dropping of 3G into EDGE and back. I have to say that the Bold is the best EDGE device I have ever used because of the processor. I have been keeping it in 2G mode and I get almost 3 days usage. I browse the internet using both opera mini and blackberry browser and the speeds are pretty good. I can't wait until AT&T sorts out their 3G issues.

torberry · 09-08-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ifonline

Wow... I don't know what to say except just... wow.

No, wait... I do know what to say. It's not every day that I get to see such a fine example of short-sighted, unintelligent commenting. Just as you have assumed that those of us in the United States couldn't possibly travel outside of the United States or have any experience with products and services outside of the United States, I will assume that you are not terribly smart and therefore overcompensate for your lack of intelligence as evidenced by your post.

Fair?

ifonline,

Take it easy friend! Nothing personal to you or others! AFAIK the BOLD is not out in the US and therefore specific comparison of the BOLD on 3G v 2G are cannot be made.

Remove your ego please. I have no use for mine here. I am merely informing and seeking info and opinion. If you don't agree then there is no harm is saying so. Insults are not necessary or appreciated.

Shaun · 09-08-2008, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by torberry

AFAIK the BOLD is not out in the US and therefore specific comparison of the BOLD on 3G v 2G are cannot be made.

What are you talking about? The phone can be unlocked and placed on the AT&T network (paging Greg), and a comparison can be formed quite easily.

Jason Mark · 09-08-2008, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by adamatwlu

I agree with "torberry". I was in the states recently and I found that the 3G was not any faster then EDGE. I also found that the 3G network in the states on AT&T kept dropping calls whereas I never had that issue to date on Rogers in Canada. Not sure what would be causing the dropped calls in the US vs. Canada.

The cause is the fact that most of the 3G network in Canada(Rogers) is on 850MHz, whereas most of the US is on 1900MHz. However, the areas in the US that utilize the 850MHz frequency, 3G service is very fast and of the best quality. There is a big difference in 3G and EDGE, regardless of location. Also note that speeds people in North America are experiencing is just a portion of what 3G technology actually has to offer.

torberry · 09-08-2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shaun27612

What are you talking about? The phone can be unlocked and placed on the AT&T network (paging Greg), and a comparison can be formed quite easily.

Ok, but isn't it possible that AT&T hasn't fully maximized their 3G network for the BOLD yet given that it's not released there officially?

Whatever the case, my point was just that 2G/EDGE seems fairly similar to 3G in my experience for web browsing.

One thing that I've noticed that speeds up the browser a lot though is to change the Firefox in the 'browser id'. Better than Opera in my opinion because it feels more stable.