[audit]

Wirelessly posted (BlackBerry7250/4.0.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1)

I think I may have a couple at the office. I'll check when I get back in town and let you know.

[zygut]

Originally Posted by finch

Here you go, click this link: AVIDTelnet-SSH for RIM Blackberry 95x SSH for the 95x what a bargin!

Wow, $132.46 and then you pay a monthly contract to use their server, thats way more than any 950 is ever going to be worth ever again! Thats amazing

[zygut]

I'm seeing 6210's on ebay for about $55, also 6230s for about the same price, it looks like the only difference between the 6210 and the 6230 is that the 6230 is only T-Mobile. There is a 6280 also, I can't see what the difference is between the 6210 and the 6280, anyone know?

[NJBlackBerry]

The difference is the GSM/GPRS bands they run on.
You can do a comparison on www.blackberry.com and it will show you which BBs have which bands.

[zygut]

Originally Posted by NJBlackBerry

The difference is the GSM/GPRS bands they run on.
You can do a comparison on www.blackberry.com and it will show you which BBs have which bands.

Yeah, I was looknig at the blackberry comparision, but they don't have the 6210 as one of the models that you can compare.

[NJBlackBerry]

I don't recall every model, but I think this was the general scheme:

xx10 (6210/7210) - GSM 900/1900
xx30 (6230/7230) - GSM 900/1800/1900
xx80 (6280/7280) - GSM 850/1800/1900

Mark R. wrote a really good thread that describes which BBs (and GSM frequencies) are best in which part of the world.

[dpeters11]

It isn't on the compare page, but the specs are available here.

http://www.blackberry.com/products/h...erry6210.shtml

[shona67]

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ps - if you have a 950 you want to get rid of, I'll take it off your hands to try and figure this out for myself and then report back my findings. So far all the wireless stores are totally clueless when I ask them about the older blackberries and then try to sell me the new one for $299 and a 2 year plan, not what I want.
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I have two 950 BB and I can sell you for $30 each or best office. E-mail me at

Thanks

[blackbelt]

well the 950's are the best to have incase of an emergency... 911 and during the blackout my 950 was the only thing working because of the mobitex network... plus it uses a regular double a battery that lasts about a month... can't' beat that with any of the other blackberries...

"during the 9/11 attack and the 2003 east coast blackout, BlackBerry devices using the Mobitex network maintained full functionality while other wireless communications systems often failed. Cingular operates the largest Mobitex network in the U.S., which covers 93% of the US. business population, including 492 Metropolitan Statistical Areas and 130 airports."
http://www.blackberry.com/news/partn..._07_2004.shtml

[Mark Rejhon]

Don't bother getting the 950.

You can get really cheap 62XX or 67XX BlackBerries used for less than $100 off eBay. Even color 7280's sometimes go for under $100 nowadays, and bright screen 7290's for under $200. Then use T-Mobile for the cheapest BlackBerry plan.

All of the -10, -30, -80 and -90 suffixed models will work in USA. I recommend the -80 or -90 suffixed models, they generally have the best reception, although T-Mobile only shares Cingular's 850 Mhz bands in some parts of USA (i.e. California)

The T-Mobile $19.99 data plan will let you do SSH with no extra monthly charges. I used to use SSH on my 950 using the avidwireless.com client, but you have to pay them about $10 per month for the service.

[Mark Rejhon]

Originally Posted by blackbelt

plus it uses a regular double a battery that lasts about a month... can't' beat that with any of the other blackberries.

Very true, but if you do not use the phone, keep in mind that a monochrome 62XX BlackBerry model lasts almost half as long - about one week's worth of battery life. Even for my color 7280, I often got 4 days of battery life.

With similiar use, I only got 1.5 weeks out of a 950, although using an Energizer e2 Lithium battery allowed 1 month of heavy use from a 950!

[headtailgrep]

As a former 957 user (and I used telnet, webmessenger, and loads of e-mail on the device) i would highly reccomend NOT going with the older devices any longer

a) Any SSH/Telnet apps you use will be third party services. You have no freedom to use tcp/ip apps, and who knows what services are still available ?

b) The coverage on mobitex/datatac devices is poor. GPRS coverage tends to be far better

Just get a GPRS device and go data only.. make sure your carrier supports TCP/IP directly on the device, and get MIDPSSH (http://xk72.com/midpssh) which is a free, open source SSH client for Blackberries and other devices.

don't get a 950/7..

[Mark Rejhon]

While a person like you with your budget, will likely use the free MIDPSSH, if you want the best Telnet/SSH client available on the market and have the money -- try Idokorro MobileSSH (free trial). It's far by the best BlackBerry telnet/SSH product on the market, and I have been a very heavy beta tester of that software. It has nice things such as the ability to multitask multiple telnet/SSH connections, and is more chat-friendly.

[headtailgrep]

If you going to chat, just use it direct on the device, especially IRC (http://jmirc.sf.net) which is another free open source app. =) This also won't work ont he 950/7.. are you crazy for wanting one? i'd say yes. =)

[zygut]

Originally Posted by headtailgrep

If you going to chat, just use it direct on the device, especially IRC (http://jmirc.sf.net) which is another free open source app. =) This also won't work ont he 950/7.. are you crazy for wanting one? i'd say yes. =)

Alright, I'm convinved I'm crazy, but I am sane now that I realized the ssh action wasn't going to be direct but through a service provider and would cost me monthly. I'm now looking at the 62/67XX or 72?? as they seem decently cheap enough, although their keyboards will not be as good as the 950, I think that I will be ok (I will be doing a lot of typing).

I'm going to do this on Cingular as thats where my wife's phone that we share goes through, it looks like their unlimited data plans are about $20/month, and I may be able to get the BB to take on a second number and use it for my cell for about $40 more.

Are there any gotchas I need to be looking out for with cingular? I need to get a device that is carrier neutral or cingular specific I guess and I do travel a lot through europe and canada, so having something that will work there would be a bonus.