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Old 09-04-2008, 07:49 AM   #21
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i just did a battery pull to play this game too, once it booted up, half the apps were missing (even when i go to show all), my icons were out of order, and my pictures were gone....

EDIT:
A second battery brought it all back. weird.

OS: 4.6.0.134
Free Ap Mem: 48.9mb
Free Dev Mem: 856.3mb

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Old 09-04-2008, 08:41 AM   #22
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i start with 55mb.
after a 2 full days of use im down to 45mb.
im using os 4.6.0.92
javascript disabled in my bb browser.

nothing wrong with my bold whatsoever
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:06 AM   #23
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i start with 55mb.
after a 2 full days of use im down to 45mb.
im using os 4.6.0.92
javascript disabled in my bb browser.

nothing wrong with my bold whatsoever
If you see no problems on 4.6.0.92 then I dare say you must not be using your bold. We started on that version and was so buggy (hangs, reboots) it was barely useable.
Now on .134 and it is useable and pretty good. Some issues remain but no worse than some other builds carriers have shipped on other devices.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:12 AM   #24
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.134 works like a charm for almost a week now. Free mem fluctuates between 37meg and 19meg without excessive hourglassing. (.126 would report 20mg free but hourglass for 3 minutes on a simple trackball scroll). Java support is disabled on all oem browsers.
Battery life? Meh...

This OS is a huge improvement for me over .126
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Old 09-04-2008, 03:39 PM   #25
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.134 works like a charm for almost a week now. Free mem fluctuates between 37meg and 19meg without excessive hourglassing. (.126 would report 20mg free but hourglass for 3 minutes on a simple trackball scroll). Java support is disabled on all oem browsers.
Battery life? Meh...

This OS is a huge improvement for me over .126
I hope your right foner. Installing .134 now, and we will see what is going on.
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:32 PM   #26
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All I know is that newer OS for the Pearl had no effect on memory leak even though people swore they did after installing them (and they were smoother/faster too--lol). The pearl only had about 14mb out of the box, increased to 30 deleting stuff. Once it gets to a certain number it just goes up and dow. My wife's never rebooted her pearl 15months and hers stays about 20.
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Old 09-04-2008, 04:45 PM   #27
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I pulled the battery around noon today, sorry didn't check starting memory, but now after 6 hours of emails, BBM, internet and currently listening to music it is at 25.4. Not sure if that is good or bad.
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Much ado about nothing....IMO
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:13 PM   #29
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JC - You are right. The number doesn't matter. The performance does. I have (imo) better performance from this OS release (.134) in ways that are readily quantifiable to me. And at the end of the day, that's all that really matters - A stable, dependable BB running the apps that "I" think are critical to "me". For other users, their mileage may vary...
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If you see no problems on 4.6.0.92 then I dare say you must not be using your bold. We started on that version and was so buggy (hangs, reboots) it was barely useable.
Now on .134 and it is useable and pretty good. Some issues remain but no worse than some other builds carriers have shipped on other devices.
well, ive gone thru every single OS, to even the beta one.

and everytime i have come back to 92, so each to their own.
this one is the fastest, and chews much less memory. no hangs no reboots. as i said perfect
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Old 09-04-2008, 06:33 PM   #31
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I'm still learning about blackberry and I've seen these "memory leak" posts everywhere. Could someone please explain too me what this is? I don't need a long explanation just a basic description please. Should it be a major concern for a potential bold buyer?
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I'm still learning about blackberry and I've seen these "memory leak" posts everywhere. Could someone please explain too me what this is? I don't need a long explanation just a basic description please. Should it be a major concern for a potential bold buyer?
In a nutshell, the device uses free memory as it sees fit for other tasks (3rd party apps, cache, logs, etc.). The "leak" is the fact that there is no stop gap to keep the OS from using all the available memory. Most other OS's let you designate a certain amount of memory to "use", but the BB OS does not have this option, thus giving it the ability to run it down to 0.
You hear about the memory leak often becuase once it reaches 0 bytes, the device salvages memory by deleting the call logs, sms messages, etc.
That's the best way I can think of without getting too technical..
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wow, i only have 14.5mb right now...
after reboot i have 24~25mb...

i have the following 3rd party:
viigo
facebook
google maps
amAze
gCalc!
Worldmate Live
MobLight
Mobile Bartender
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BBlight
VibAndRing
Blackberry Wallet
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the pre-installed games
gmail
MSDict Viewer
Mini Monitor
Google Talk
Msn Messenger

Is it because i have all these softwares that is causing me to only have 25mb on a fresh start?
and i run on the .134 of course

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I'm at 22264344 Bytes, is that good or bad?
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I understand the OS's and JVM's active use of memory for multiple applications and that multiple garbage collection methods run in various situations to reclaim memory no longer in use. Sure it's normal for memory to fluctuate. But my Bold fluctuates mostly down (first with OS v4.6.0.125 and now with v4.6.0.134). It loses .5MB in 30-60 min doing nothing but if you start web browsing, it easily consumes 10MB/hour and no matter how long you let it sit after that it will not reclaim more than a small portion of that lost memory. It's better since I disabled Javascript in all the browsers but still severe.

The new OS (4.6.0.134) is better than .125 in that the browser actually works (with Javascript disabled) and there is more free memory to start with. The functionality is actually very good if you watch the memory level. Now maybe, if I let the memory level get critical, it will trigger a more aggressive garbage collection and keeps its head above water on its own but I haven't had the guts to try that yet.

I have just been doing soft resets (ALT-RightShift-DEL) and not pulling the battery and that seems to reclaim most of the lost memory much more conveniently.

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I'm at 22264344 Bytes, is that good or bad?
My Pearl 8100 always had over 30MB free. My Bold starts at 55MB after reset and goes down, down, down from there.

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Much ado about nothing....IMO
I tend to agree.
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You wouldn't be so quick to agree if you had a Bold that suffered from terminal hourglassing or flat-out freezing.
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Oh my, how us early adopters suffer..
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For anyone who uses the browser on non-mobile websites, you will QUICKLY notice the memory leak. When you access a website that is heavy in javascript in your full HTML browser and it locks up your device with an hour glass and then you get a java.nullpointer error stating OutOfMemory, I think that points to an issue. After that error, I had 22MB of free memory - after a reboot, I had 41MB of free memory. Leak? I would think so... or poor, poor memory management and/or coding for the browser.
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