[fkjr2]

Originally Posted by Tara One

decisions, decisions...I cant decide!!!

two different devices I'm afraid.

Power user = Bold

Media device with web/phone = Iphone

[Dawgfan]

Originally Posted by fkjr2

two different devices I'm afraid.

Power user = Bold

Media device with web/phone = Iphone

with all due respect this is a common misconception.

I can do a lot of things that qualify as power user with both phones.

[Dawgfan]

IMO the keyboard is a push. Having used just about all if them I can type pretty dern fast on any. Where keys may be too close on an 88xx for some keyboard lag at times on the iPhone can be a PITA.

[Dawgfan]

fiancé has 8830 but I have been away from BB 8800 for a bit.

question (serious, not trying to be facetious)

can BB have multiple browser windows open at the same time?

[Dawgfan]

with 3G in the mix (not to mention all ya'll power-users), user-accessible battery is a plus for BB Bold.

4-5 hours of Internet usage drop kicks the iPhone where it hurts.

[stranger]

Originally Posted by Dawgfan

4-5 hours of Internet usage drop kicks the iPhone where it hurts.

I wouldn't say that.

iPhone
Internet use:
Up to 5 hours on 3G
Up to 6 hours on Wi-Fi

[Dawgfan]

Originally Posted by stranger

I wouldn't say that.

iPhone
Internet use:
Up to 5 hours on 3G
Up to 6 hours on Wi-Fi

I would.

Say what they want. I have been using an iPhone for a year and will believe better battery life out of a 3G device when I see it. As an employee of ATT Mobility I appreciate your confidence but will need to see it in action.

4 hours of Internet on EDGE gets me a battery warning and this is not out if the ordinary from all the people I know using iPhones.

[Dawgfan]

Originally Posted by stranger

I wouldn't say that.

iPhone
Internet use:
Up to 5 hours on 3G
Up to 6 hours on Wi-Fi

Let's say you do get this battery life during an average day....

At 5-6 hours you are looking for a plug-in with your proprietary charger.

...a BB owner can just pop in a backup battery.

This is actually a concern for me as I plan to live-post to a fan website during gamedays this year and will not have easy access to a charger while roaming tailgate parties and in the stadium.

[CrazEtooN]

An important thing to remember is that those are gauged times for USE. You need to be physically browsing the web for 5 hours, physically making calls for 8 hours, etc.

If you mix the web, calls, mail, texts, media, etc; and spread it out through the day, the vast majority don't actually commit to 5 hours of real USE by the time they go to bed. I can't even see a power user truly pushing 5-6 hours of mixed use in an 8-5 workday.

I am not saying you are doing this Dawgfan, but many people mix up the claimed usage time with the phone just being on, and their opinions are greatly skewed by it.

[Dawgfan]

Originally Posted by CrazEtooN

An important thing to remember is that those are gauged times for USE. You need to be physically browsing the web for 5 hours, physically making calls for 8 hours, etc.

If you mix the web, calls, mail, texts, media, etc; and spread it out through the day, the vast majority don't actually commit to 5 hours of real USE by the time they go to bed. I can't even see a power user truly pushing 5-6 hours of mixed use in an 8-5 workday.

I am not saying you are doing this Dawgfan, but many people mix up the claimed usage time with the phone just being on, and their opinions are greatly skewed by it.

You are right.

Assuming I leave the house with a full charge my iPhone could need some juice by my commute home.

I rarely use the iPod functionality.
I hate talking on a phone.
My usage is mainly email & Internet.

On days when I am busy and can't feed my Twitter/Google Reader addiction I could have 30-40% juice left by dark.

On days when I listen to a podcast at lunch, stay caught up on RSS feeds and Twitter I could be charging on the way home.

Heavy email IMO would mimic internet impact on battery life.

I think a real power-user (truly utilizing most of a devices features..& often) using voice, BT, Internet, email, etc could need a charge not long after lunch possibly.

I must note that it is possible that native apps (iPhone firmware 2.0) could possibly help with battery life if they reduce Internet usage and those apps are less drain on the battery.

Just thoughts.

[Dawgfan]

FYI
today. was hung over so no talking really. iPhone fully charged when I woke up from afternoon nap at 6ish

Usage stats show 4.5 hours of usage. Almost all if this has been on internet as mostly wi-fi. Basically just reading stuff and posting here and there.

Just got 20% low battery warning.

If I were to do what I plan/want to do on gamedays I would be in trouble as we start early.

If you can't tell I am really torn as I love the BB & the iPhone.

[CrazEtooN]

Originally Posted by Dawgfan

FYI
today. was hung over so no talking really. iPhone fully charged when I woke up from afternoon nap at 6ish

Usage stats show 4.5 hours of usage. Almost all if this has been on internet as mostly wi-fi. Basically just reading stuff and posting here and there.

Just got 20% low battery warning.

If I were to do what I plan/want to do on gamedays I would be in trouble as we start early.

If you can't tell I am really torn as I love the BB & the iPhone.

If you have 4.5 hours of real, actual usage on pretty much any phone you are going to be pretty low though. BlackBerry included.

Instead of getting a replaceable battery (which you can't), you could look into an iPhone juice pack that pretty much does the same thing.

[Dawgfan]

just checked out Juice Pack. I appreciate the tip but for me $100 is a bit steep for backup battery power.

[CrazEtooN]

Originally Posted by Dawgfan

just checked out Juice Pack. I appreciate the tip but for me $100 is a bit steep for backup battery power.

Yeah, the Juice Pack is expensive. There are other, cheaper styles from other companies that do the same thing. They just aren't as streamlined to fit the back of the device in a "pretty" fashion like the Juice Pack.

[MisterEd]

Plus it uses a LiPo battery (Lithium Polymer) which in itself is literally an explosive device if not handled properly. I fly R/C helicopters and those batteries are notorius for causing fires. They are fantastic batteries but highly explosive and flammable if not properly cared for (they can't be shipped by anything but ground methods). I keep mine in a fireproof safe when charging.

YouTube - Lithium Polymer Battery Explosion's (liposack)

Originally Posted by CrazEtooN

Yeah, the Juice Pack is expensive. There are other, cheaper styles from other companies that do the same thing. They just aren't as streamlined to fit the back of the device in a "pretty" fashion like the Juice Pack.

[stranger]

hehe explosive battery in your pocket. loads of fun

[CrazEtooN]

Originally Posted by MisterEd

Plus it uses a LiPo battery (Lithium Polymer) which in itself is literally an explosive device if not handled properly. I fly R/C helicopters and those batteries are notorius for causing fires. They are fantastic batteries but highly explosive and flammable if not properly cared for (they can't be shipped by anything but ground methods). I keep mine in a fireproof safe when charging.

YouTube - Lithium Polymer Battery Explosion's (liposack)

Where did you get this information? None of the reviews I read of it, nor their site itself, says it uses that type of battery.

I am not saying you are wrong, but it would be nice to see it listed somewhere as that sounds like a dangerous battery.

[MisterEd]

Ummm, did you go to their website?
mophie - iPhone Battery, iPod Cases, iPhone accessories and more! - Juice Pack - iPhone

The All-New mophie ‘Juice Pack’ is designed to extend the time you can Rock, Talk, Surf and Send with your iPhone

This is the first Apple certified ”Works With iPhone” attached battery in the world!

The Juice Pack is a rechargeable lithium polymer battery in the form of a non-slip, soft grip case. It extends the time that you can use your iPhone in these ways (additional hours):

Originally Posted by CrazEtooN

Where did you get this information? None of the reviews I read of it, nor their site itself, says it uses that type of battery.

I am not saying you are wrong, but it would be nice to see it listed somewhere as that sounds like a dangerous battery.

[MisterEd]

Read this:
http://thunderpowerrc.com/PDF/THPSafetyWarnings.pdf
and this:
lipOLY wARNING

There are hundreds others like it.

Originally Posted by CrazEtooN

Where did you get this information? None of the reviews I read of it, nor their site itself, says it uses that type of battery.

I am not saying you are wrong, but it would be nice to see it listed somewhere as that sounds like a dangerous battery.

[CrazEtooN]

Holy lord... I read right over it and didn't see it. My fault.