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09-13-2006, 02:46 PM
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iTunes and the 8100
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What format are songs for the iPod saved as, and will the 8100 play these files?
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09-13-2006, 02:52 PM
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Songs for the iPod can be encoded in various formats:
Audio formats supported: AAC (16 to 320 Kbps), Protected AAC (from iTunes Store), MP3 (16 to 320 Kbps), MP3 VBR, Audible (formats 2, 3, and 4), Apple Lossless, AIFF, and WAV
Blackberry Pearl supports he following Audio formats (including extensions) from BBHUB:
ACC - audio compression formats AAC, AAC+, and EAAC+
AMR - Adaptive Multi Rate-Narrow Band (AMR-NB) speech coder standard Supported AMR-NB rates are 4.75 KBps, 5.15 KBps, 5.9 KBps, 6.7 KBps, 7.4 KBps, 7.95 KBps, 10.2 KBps, and 12.2 KBp. I gotta tell ya, AMR files must conform to the standards specified in Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) Request for Comments (RFC) document RFC3267, Section 5, on the the Internet RFC Archive web site.
MIDI - Polyphonic MIDI (.mid, .midi, or .smf)
MP3 - encoded using MPEG Part 1 and Part 2 audio layer 3 Supported sample rates are 16Khz, 22.050Khz, 24Khz, 32Khz, 44.1Khz and 48Khz.
WAV - supports sample rates of 8 kHz, 16 kHz, 22.05 kHz, 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, and 48 kHz with 8-bit and 16-bit depths in mono or stereo Supports WAV files created using audio codec GSM6.10.
The following Audio file extensions are also supported:
* .avi containing PCM, MP3, and AAC, AAC+, and eAAC+
* .3gp containing MP3, AMR-NB, AAC, AAC+, and eAAC+
* .mp4 containing MP3, AMR-NB, AAC, AAC+, and eAAC+
* .mov containing MP3, AMR-NB, AAC, AAC+, and eAAC+
* .aac and .m4a containing AAC, AAC+, and eAAC
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09-13-2006, 02:53 PM
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Sorry if I'm dense, but I don't understand all of that. If I have songs downloaded onto my computer from iTunes, can I transfer them to the 8100 and successfuly play them?
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09-13-2006, 02:57 PM
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iTunes and the iPod use AAC format with Apple's FairPlay DRM. They will only play on an authorized computer with iTunes or an iPod. The Motorola ROKR had the ability to play iTunes songs but that's the only agreement Apple has struck with a third party.
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09-13-2006, 02:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo47
iTunes and the iPod use AAC format with Apple's FairPlay DRM. They will only play on an authorized computer with iTunes or an iPod. The Motorola ROKR had the ability to play iTunes songs but that's the only agreement Apple has struck with a third party.
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09-13-2006, 02:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo47
iTunes and the iPod use AAC format with Apple's FairPlay DRM. They will only play on an authorized computer with iTunes or an iPod. The Motorola ROKR had the ability to play iTunes songs but that's the only agreement Apple has struck with a third party.
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Motorola SLVR plays iTunes as well ;)
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09-13-2006, 03:00 PM
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to further clarify
The above statement would only apply to songs PURCHASED via iTunes. If you got them somewhere else and put them into iTunes, then most likely they will play on the Pearl.
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09-13-2006, 03:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pipermalibu
The above statement would only apply to songs PURCHASED via iTunes. If you got them somewhere else and put them into iTunes, then most likely they will play on the Pearl.
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Correct-a-mundo!
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09-24-2006, 05:09 AM
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So is there no place online where I can purchase music (rhapsody, etc.) that will be playable on the Pearl? Because I believe they all have their own proprietary encoding? Or does anyone know of an exceptioon to this?
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09-24-2006, 05:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by badmunchkin
So is there no place online where I can purchase music (rhapsody, etc.) that will be playable on the Pearl? Because I believe they all have their own proprietary encoding? Or does anyone know of an exceptioon to this?
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Use somewhere like All Of mp3 that sells non-DRM'd mp3's
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09-24-2006, 07:44 AM
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i don't understand "purchasing" music :P
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09-24-2006, 03:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rambo47
iTunes and the iPod use AAC format with Apple's FairPlay DRM. They will only play on an authorized computer with iTunes or an iPod. The Motorola ROKR had the ability to play iTunes songs but that's the only agreement Apple has struck with a third party.
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Could one theoretically get around this by burning an album (purchased on itunes) onto a CD as mp3s or mp4s or whatever and then transferring them?
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09-24-2006, 04:52 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpeezy
Could one theoretically get around this by burning an album (purchased on itunes) onto a CD as mp3s or mp4s or whatever and then transferring them?
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yes, but with a loss of quality.
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09-24-2006, 07:13 PM
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Allofmp3.com files work like a champ on the pearl and they are dirt cheap. No more buying off iTunes for me!
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09-24-2006, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pipermalibu
The above statement would only apply to songs PURCHASED via iTunes. If you got them somewhere else and put them into iTunes, then most likely they will play on the Pearl.
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So if I have playlists in iTunes comprised of songs off my own cd's, they will play fine via the Pearl?
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09-24-2006, 08:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nickbee
Allofmp3.com files work like a champ on the pearl and they are dirt cheap. No more buying off iTunes for me!
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Thanks for the info on that music site, its great.
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09-29-2006, 08:27 PM
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Because of itunes 7 and their album art download, and having my pearl sync up with my itunes, I now get to see the album art while playing mp3s on the pearl. Isn't that amazing?!
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09-29-2006, 08:37 PM
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is allofmp3 legal? Those prices seem really cheap...
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09-29-2006, 09:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by vidsmart
So if I have playlists in iTunes comprised of songs off my own cd's, they will play fine via the Pearl?
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I think... you should be fine as long as your not using apple lossless (highest quality setting) when importing CD's into itunes....just check out your import settings and you'll know what your using for encoding.
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09-30-2006, 02:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zenxacred
i don't understand "purchasing" music :P
(j/k)
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Beats me.
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