[test54]

Good links, I'll add these two.

Chevrolet | New Electric Car - Concept Chevy Volt

The Electric Car Lives

[DacyJ]

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Hot dogs are still .99 cents here

[customshopkv1]

Jumbos are $1.49

[wabbit]

Originally Posted by test54

Good links, I'll add these two.

Chevrolet | New Electric Car - Concept Chevy Volt

The Electric Car Lives

oh wow nice find!

btw, off the subject a little i been seeing alot of euro type cars 2 seaters, small, about 1/2 the size of like a focus / sentra, what the heck are these?

[DacyJ]

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Originally Posted by wabbit

oh wow nice find!

btw, off the subject a little i been seeing alot of euro type cars 2 seaters, small, about 1/2 the size of like a focus / sentra, what the heck are these?

Like the car on the wii commercials are a Mercedes smart

[DacyJ]

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Also a Prius lmao

[wabbit]

Originally Posted by DacyJ

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Like the car on the wii commercials are a Mercedes smart

i got a pic of it on my canon, when i find my camera, i'll host it to see if anybody has a clue on it. its a weird car

[test54]

Originally Posted by wabbit

oh wow nice find!

btw, off the subject a little i been seeing alot of euro type cars 2 seaters, small, about 1/2 the size of like a focus / sentra, what the heck are these?

SmartCars i think, we have a few around now.
smart USA - open your mind to the car that challenges the status quo

if your a car person check out jalopnik.com

[wabbit]

Originally Posted by test54

SmartCars i think, we have a few around now.
smart USA - open your mind to the car that challenges the status quo

if your a car person check out jalopnik.com

thats it!

[DacyJ]

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You can put a hyabusa motor in it and it will spank a lambo you should youtube it

[test54]

Their unusual looking but I love the fact that they put paddle shifters on a 71hp car.
In town (not very big) we have atleast 3 of them I see around town, one convertible.

[test54]

Originally Posted by DacyJ

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You can put a hyabusa motor in it and it will spank a lambo you should youtube it

Thanks for the tip, I loved this one vs. ferrari
YouTube - Ferrari vs Smart car

amazing.

[DacyJ]

Originally Posted by test54

Thanks for the tip, I loved this one vs. ferrari
YouTube - Ferrari vs Smart car

amazing.

I love that, im a huge Ferrari guy but that is cool

[conmetal]

Originally Posted by ezrunner

Thats why i ride my bike to work 3-4 days a week

I'm seriously considering cycling. I'm green to the sport, but a co-worker has been trying to convert me from motorcycling to cycling for years. With the current gas prices, I'm considering my first 'real' road bike. I had no idea they were so expensive, therefore I'm on the lookout for a retro model until I can justify spending what I usually would as a downpayment on a motorcycle. I will definitely need some conditioning prior to riding 16 miles each way too and from work, but there are a couple park and rides along the way to accommodate.

[Darker Blitz]

YouTube - Smart with hayabusa engine


haha

[test54]

Originally Posted by Darker Blitz

YouTube - Smart with hayabusa engine


haha

Yeah i saw that one too, just have to mute it with that music though.
they look fun but I think a mini would be about as small as I would go.

[ezrunner]

Originally Posted by conmetal

I'm seriously considering cycling. I'm green to the sport, but a co-worker has been trying to convert me from motorcycling to cycling for years. With the current gas prices, I'm considering my first 'real' road bike. I had no idea they were so expensive, therefore I'm on the lookout for a retro model until I can justify spending what I usually would as a downpayment on a motorcycle. I will definitely need some conditioning prior to riding 16 miles each way too and from work, but there are a couple park and rides along the way to accommodate.

you can get a very nice bike for pretty cheap. Look for last years models typically in August I think many go on sale

16 miles is easier than many think some will depend on you conditioning if you are reasonably in shape won't be a problem. Get proper cycling shorts I promise you won't regret them. It is worth spending extra for good quality shorts. Your tail ed will thank you

[DacyJ]

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Gas is starting to go down here, went from 3.99 to 3.79

[rjw3000]

Originally Posted by test54

My opinion has little to do with global warming (although i do think thats a problem).
Your saying that Oil companies have been working on these alternatives for years? Thats great then they should have something to show for it, but as of yet they don't. Its the automakers that are showing their hand and improving mileage.

Again read my two examples and tell me how the free market helped all the sub-prime home owner that now have lost their homes because of predatory lending practices? How about all the people who paid Billions in electric bills because Enron and others manipulated prices. Free market does work but it has to have some regulation, if not you run into the days of Robber Barons (history lesson there).

Coal can solve only some of the problem, the cleanest coal burning plant still is not healthy. But it is a good fuel that we have in this country. Oil is different, they say that the Dakotas and Montana have oil but no published amounts are out there.

But again it boils down to: Exxon stands to make $40+ Billion this year. Why would they want to change anything? They definitely would not willingly change anything that would lower their profit in the long run. That is where regulation can step in.
Perhaps they need to be forced to drill in Montana? whatever.

Still the answer is hydrogen. BBC NEWS | Business | Honda makes first hydrogen cars

I agree, the current supposed "free market" isn't working the way it should, it's not a free market when you have a small group of people manipulating supply and demand and speculating value to increase their own wealth and lie to people to keep investment money coming in while transferring their own money to other investment areas. Suprised nobody has mentioned the speculation arena that is pretty much left unchecked in this whole gas price increase.

Bear and Stearns is a perfect recent example of this trend and there's also a recent story of congress considering a bill to restrict speculation markets in the oil industry, which of course is putting a bunch of people on wall street up in arms.

[Justinangil]

Originally Posted by jsconyers

In all fairness to test, I don't believe he wants the oil prices to stay high for people to lose their jobs and homes. I believe he is saying with higher fuel prices it will force people to develop other alternatives. IMO, oil companies know we will pay these prices for fuel, so I don't see it dropping much lower than we see it now.

I agree hydrogen is a good alternative. What about using the sun? What about solar cars? That is a resource that has been around since the beginning of time and we don't use it to its advantage IMO. However, who will make money off of using it?!?

I remember reading and watching about solar technology when I was in grade school in the late 80s. For a kind of technology that's been around for 20 something years, you'd figure there would be major improvements and a mass market for it.