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Old 04-12-2007, 10:59 PM   #141
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Just translated the page.

For everyone else the fields read as follows:
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:00 PM   #142
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Boy you guys are good. I cannot read spanish or whatever language that is and so I am at a complete loss as to how to even fill out the form to get the download. Am I missing something here, or are all you guys that multi-linguistic

Please help
I live in Houston, TX. Speaking Spanish or the ability to pick up on some of the language is almost of a necessity! I am by no means fluent but can pick up on some words to somewhat understand the conversation, text, etc.

And of course I rely heavily on on-line translators (i.e. Google Translator).
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:30 PM   #143
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I upgraded and I definitely have to say I notice a lag on my 8700g....not tooo severe, but its definitely there and definitely noticeable, especially when changing tones for alerts and such or scrolling through my calendar in agenda view

Its nice though, and there are definitely some features I appreciate in it.

And like most people said, the upgrade can take some TIME so bear with it - I sat there for at least ten minutes watching an hour glass praying I didn't just a butload of time and have to restore but thankfully all went well (so far)....
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:39 PM   #144
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The underlying platform can't be loaded so CDMA users are out of luck until a CDMA build is out.
Are there any other details on this. My understanding is all BBs use the same processor, and are all based on the same stack over Java. So what is it that can not be supported on this for CDMA.

Not that I dought this I have herd this before due to patent issues, and limited number of network hardware venders. CDMA is generally play catch up. I am just curious as to what it is here with BBs
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Old 04-12-2007, 11:53 PM   #145
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They use similar processors but not all the same processors.

They are all ARM based (from the 6200 series and up) but some are ARM7 and some are ARM9. The 8700 uses an XScale processor. The 8703 uses a ARM processor embedded in the EVDO chipset. The other's I'm not so sure about.

Also CDMA is its own protocol, loading GSM firmware on a CDMA phone won't work, just like you can't install ethernet drivers on a token ring network card.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:41 AM   #146
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ya, i read it wrong..sorry

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Old 04-13-2007, 12:44 AM   #147
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There is a 4.2 upgrade on the tmo site, is it the same one as the link provided in the first post? better? worse?
No there isn't.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:51 AM   #148
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Sorry to ask another question, but I have done a few searches of the forums and can't seem to find a definitive answer and this problem started today immediately after my upgrade.

Here goes:

TMO 8700g/BES
Upgraded from the latest Cingular release (509?) to 4.2
Previously used Wave Icons theme I believe. (Have tried a number of the themses on the device to see if it was theme related and no dice.)

I don't even have to explain the problem, it is adequately explained here with no apparent resolution:

http://www.blackberryforums.com/gene...reen-help.html

I have searched around and found a couple other instances of it mentioned in the forum, though never with any resolution.

Any help or insights would be appreciated.

Thanks!
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:52 AM   #149
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ya, i read it wrong..sorry
You referring to the Desktop Manager program. This post is covering the Operating System v4.2.166 to the 8700 series.
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Old 04-13-2007, 01:10 AM   #150
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After having the 4.2 OS running since early this evening, I've noticed a few things:

1) Browsing and anything else that involved loading images was terribly slow. However, after half a day of use, it seems to have gone back to normal. I can't explain this, at all...it's just weird. The first time I opened the images folder in the media app, it seriously took about 3-4 minutes to load everything. Now it works just like it used to. I have no idea what's up. Browsing also went back to normal after half a day.

2) When browsing, holding ALT while scrolling no longer scrolls by page. What I mean is, before when I was on 4.1, holding ALT and scrolling down would be like scrolling down using SPACE (or page down on a PC). Same thing for ALT-scroll up. This no longer works. Holding ALT in the browser STILL scrolls by line rather than by page. I can't stand this. This alone might make me go back to the old OS.

3) The "Unlock" problem where selecting "Unlock" doesn't work and you have to hit * TALK. I can't stand it, as I was used to hitting the scroll wheel twice.

I'm just going to try not to go crazy before I can pick up an 8300...
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:33 AM   #151
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I just found the new 8700 software 4.2.1.108 (multi language) out from Telefonica Venezuela. I don't know if I can post links for not, so if I can't just google it.

https://www.blackberry.com/Downloads...CACC2C2F2F26C7
This came a surprise to me.

Are you aware that OS 4.2 Handset software is not offically released on RIM? If you take a look at RIM/Blackberry site and you will find nothing relating to OS 4.2.

I spent about 45 minutes with a RIM technical person via T-Mobile customer rep. last night to resolve my e-mail problems (this has nothing do with the OS 4.2 which I haven’t loaded up). So I had to ask him a question about OS 4.2 Handset software. He told me that the one we saw is preliminary software. It will release publicly in real soon. My suggestion to you is to wait for the offical released software.
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:52 AM   #152
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This came a surprise to me.

Are you aware that OS 4.2 Handset software is not offically released on RIM? If you take a look at RIM/Blackberry site and you will find nothing relating to OS 4.2.

I spent about 45 minutes with a RIM technical person via T-Mobile customer rep. last night to resolve my e-mail problems (this has nothing do with the OS 4.2 which I haven’t loaded up). So I had to ask him a question about OS 4.2 Handset software. He told me that the one we saw is preliminary software. It will release publicly in real soon. My suggestion to you is to wait for the offical released software.
Of course T-Mo would say that, they haven't released it yet. Carriers release as they see fit, and apparently venezuela is ahead of them.

If it's on the RIM site, it's released.
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Old 04-13-2007, 06:59 AM   #153
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So is everything in Spanish or in English? Or is it just the online form and error message that appear in Spanish?
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Old 04-13-2007, 07:22 AM   #154
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Of course T-Mo would say that, they haven't released it yet. Carriers release as they see fit, and apparently venezuela is ahead of them.

If it's on the RIM site, it's released.

No, it was not from T-Mobile. It was from a RIM Tech person.
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:00 AM   #155
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This is an official RIM release, it's just not for tmo or cing. Does anyone else find it odd that this South American os has the at&t theme as it's primary theme? Is this carrier affiliated with at&t?
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:13 AM   #156
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Ring tones. Makes it a whole lot easier.


I also noticed that no one has mentioned the ability to change the password attempts anywhere from ten to three. The volume and quality of sound has improved as well.
You missed the whole piont... this is not a MP3 player like the 8800 this is like any other phone with limited memory for some of your favorite ring tones up to 30seconds not an entire song like others want!!!
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I noticed dimension today theme lost the profile menu on bottom. I tried to reinstall but refuse to activate. Am I missing something?

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Old 04-13-2007, 08:23 AM   #158
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I need more themes !!!!! Jibi, where are you.... ? lolz
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For those that are complaining about the unlock issue... My IT policy locks after every 30 mins of not being in use so this is a big deal but i dont understand why some of you prefer to double click... why not just enter your password... i accidently discovered this.. instead of hitting unlock then password just type the password and Enter or hit the wheel...
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Old 04-13-2007, 08:29 AM   #160
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i can easily crash my 8700g running this 4.2 release by listening to some ringtones. After 3 of 4 tries the blackberry crashes with a java error. Could reproduce this in 3 different 8700g devices.
I get this crash as well.

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