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06-21-2007, 02:32 PM
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Using a USB cable from another device with 8700g
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Hi guys,
I have a new, week old, 8700g that came equipped with standard accessories out of the box (including the thick USB cable). I also happen to have a VZ Wireless XV6700 Pocket PC device that has a closely identical (but thinner) mini-USB to USB cable that can be used for data and recharging.
Since I'd like to leave one cable plugged in the pc at home AND a pc at work (same laptop, just using a dock), without having to buy another cable, do you think (from what you know) that the mini-USB/USB cable from the VZ Wireless XV6700 should be ok? I will be honest ...I have used it to charge and sync my 8700g without issues, but only tried a few times...I don't know what the long term implications are, if any. I don't know if these cables are made to regulate the actual current transferred to charge the device, especially a device OTHER than the one it came with.
If anyone knows anything of this or has prior experience of this nature, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks in advance.
Manpreet
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06-21-2007, 02:58 PM
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I believe the USB spec is such that you can't fry a device by plugging it in to a hub/master with power. Underwriter's Lab (UL) would never approve a power connection that could have mismatched voltages. The current draw is up to the device.
Just give it a try. No long term implications.
The 8700 may require the Desktop Manager software on the PC before accepting the charge though.
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06-21-2007, 03:28 PM
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I believe the USB spec is such that you can't fry a device by plugging it in to a hub/master with power. Underwriter's Lab (UL) would never approve a power connection that could have mismatched voltages. The current draw is up to the device.
Just give it a try. No long term implications.
The 8700 may require the Desktop Manager software on the PC before accepting the charge though.
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Thanks Borgmeister...that's sort of what I thought (but not so eloquently stated as YOU put it).
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06-21-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by manpreet
Hi guys,
I have a new, week old, 8700g that came equipped with standard accessories out of the box (including the thick USB cable). I also happen to have a VZ Wireless XV6700 Pocket PC device that has a closely identical (but thinner) mini-USB to USB cable that can be used for data and recharging.
Since I'd like to leave one cable plugged in the pc at home AND a pc at work (same laptop, just using a dock), without having to buy another cable, do you think (from what you know) that the mini-USB/USB cable from the VZ Wireless XV6700 should be ok? I will be honest ...I have used it to charge and sync my 8700g without issues, but only tried a few times...I don't know what the long term implications are, if any. I don't know if these cables are made to regulate the actual current transferred to charge the device, especially a device OTHER than the one it came with.
If anyone knows anything of this or has prior experience of this nature, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks in advance.
Manpreet
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you can use whatever USB cable with the 8700g, along with any other device....hence the name... Universal Serial Bus (USB)
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06-21-2007, 03:58 PM
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Thanks for the replies, guys. The reason I ask is because RIM repeatedly mentions in the documentation and on their site to ONLY USE THE SUPPLIED/ APPROVED batteries, and I never heard any mention about the data cable...so I can't exactly afford to fry my unit and go out and get another one. I know the whole USB concept makes sense, but I just couldn't afford taking a chance.
So...why the big deal with ONLY using RIM's batteries? I have had other devices in the past and I know you can get a replacement non-OEM for just about any phone...what's the deal with only using RIM's batteries? Has anyone used a no-name replacement or know of anyone who did? Did it vaporize the unit? Don't worry, I'm too chicken-$hit to do it, I'm just curious. Even if I COULD afford to replace the unit, I love it too much to see it go bye-bye.
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06-21-2007, 04:06 PM
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Very generally non-OEM batteries will be fine. Look out for weak batteries though. You want to get one with a similar power rating (mAh), which basically tells you how long the battery will hold a charge.
For ultra-cheap replacements, there can be an issue with the power being unclean or noisy. It shouldn't fry anything, but deviations from nominal voltage can cause unpredictable behavior.
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06-21-2007, 04:21 PM
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I use the cable that came with my iPod when I am at home. Works great. Transfers data and charges as well.
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06-22-2007, 07:44 AM
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I use the thin cable that came with my Mio Digiwalker GPS with no problems.
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06-22-2007, 09:57 AM
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i use a splitter i got online to charge the bb and hs-655
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06-22-2007, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by manpreet
Hi guys,
I have a new, week old, 8700g that came equipped with standard accessories out of the box (including the thick USB cable). I also happen to have a VZ Wireless XV6700 Pocket PC device that has a closely identical (but thinner) mini-USB to USB cable that can be used for data and recharging.
Since I'd like to leave one cable plugged in the pc at home AND a pc at work (same laptop, just using a dock), without having to buy another cable, do you think (from what you know) that the mini-USB/USB cable from the VZ Wireless XV6700 should be ok? I will be honest ...I have used it to charge and sync my 8700g without issues, but only tried a few times...I don't know what the long term implications are, if any. I don't know if these cables are made to regulate the actual current transferred to charge the device, especially a device OTHER than the one it came with.
If anyone knows anything of this or has prior experience of this nature, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks in advance.
Manpreet
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i'll say it again...you can use any USB cable. it's not like an electrical socket which requires a transformed for your device if it can't handle the current (aka, the big bulky part that plugs into the wall or that sits midway on a cord like a laptop power cord)
for the blackberry, you can use any usb cable that fits. you won't short circuit anything, the USB provides very low power anyway...it should be fine.
i wouldn't worry
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06-22-2007, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by manpreet
Hi guys,
I have a new, week old, 8700g that came equipped with standard accessories out of the box (including the thick USB cable). I also happen to have a VZ Wireless XV6700 Pocket PC device that has a closely identical (but thinner) mini-USB to USB cable that can be used for data and recharging.
Since I'd like to leave one cable plugged in the pc at home AND a pc at work (same laptop, just using a dock), without having to buy another cable, do you think (from what you know) that the mini-USB/USB cable from the VZ Wireless XV6700 should be ok? I will be honest ...I have used it to charge and sync my 8700g without issues, but only tried a few times...I don't know what the long term implications are, if any. I don't know if these cables are made to regulate the actual current transferred to charge the device, especially a device OTHER than the one it came with.
If anyone knows anything of this or has prior experience of this nature, I'd appreciate hearing from you.
Thanks in advance.
Manpreet
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i'll say it again...you can use any USB cable. it's not like an electrical socket which requires a transformer for your device if it can't handle the current (aka, the big bulky part that plugs into the wall or that sits midway on a cord like a laptop power cord)
for the blackberry, you can use any usb cable that fits. you won't short circuit anything, the USB provides very low power anyway...it should be fine.
i wouldn't worry
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