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Old 11-18-2009, 04:51 PM   #161
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I'm glad you brought up BBM. It is STUPID. There is no point other than some weird feeling of belonging to a "special BlackBerry club." Text or email serve the exact same purpose.

I don't want her PIN. I want her to pin me.
How pathetic.
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:52 PM   #162
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please explain how BES is prehistoric.
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:54 PM   #163
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I'm glad you brought up BBM. It is STUPID. There is no point other than some weird feeling of belonging to a "special BlackBerry club." Text [...] serve[s] the exact same purpose.
SMS is not the same as BBM.

BBM gives you delivery/receipt notifications. You can use BBM internationally without extra (international) costs. You don't have to have an additional plan, it's included with your data plan, unlike having to add an additional texting plan.

This further shows your ignorance.
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Old 11-18-2009, 04:56 PM   #164
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You realize BES is NOT Microsoft, right?

I am a BES administrator in a Novell environment, using GroupWise. Nothing Microsoft, no Active Directory.

You really need to educate yourself before you make posts like this. It makes you look extremely idiotic (especially for a self-proclaimed technophile).

Also, that link has nothing to do with BES. Not a single thing. So again, I will raise the question. How is BES prehistoric?
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:00 PM   #165
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You realize BES is NOT Microsoft, right?

I am a BES administrator in a Novell environment, using GroupWise. Nothing Microsoft, no Active Directory.

You really need to educate yourself before you make posts like this. It makes you look extremely idiotic.
I think this in fact is much of the problem. He believes he is in the Top 10% in knowledge of these matters. He might in fact be closer to the bottom 10% (although I suspect bottom 35% personally). He will have problems with his droid as well.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:03 PM   #166
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And no I'm not gonna go over the [very few] apps I have installed or how much memory I have. Even though I know that that is not the problem and that the problem is simply that BB is a piece-of-shiznit, I am not going to indulge in this stupid exercise any more.
I call BS.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:18 PM   #167
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Google Android does seamlessly out of the box
oh really?

while it sync it with google thats it. htc was shipping android phones which cant be branded "by google" due to adding exchange to the os.

the phone can only sync with google.

the sad part is every phone on the market can sync with google. 99% of out of the box too.

iphone syncs with google. windows mobile syncs with google, and blackberry's sync with google.


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you are really ignorant.

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SMS is not the same as BBM.

BBM gives you delivery/receipt notifications. You can use BBM internationally without extra (international) costs. You don't have to have an additional plan, it's included with your data plan, unlike having to add an additional texting plan.
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I said text OR EMAIL

Hooked on phonics are we?
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oh really?
blackberry's sync with google.
Please. This is the clunkiest crap I've ever seen. I tried it and after almost killing myself I gave up.

BES is crap -- a clumsy, high-maintenance, high cost product to sync mobile and desktop PIM data right? Without getting crazy about it -- that's basically it right?

I'm sorry jsconyers now I understand why you are so pissed off. Google cloudware basically makes your job obsolete. Modern day Luddites the lot of you! If it's any consolation you are not alone -- technological advancements always displace people and render entire industries irrelevant. Your resistance is expected, predictable even.
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I said text OR EMAIL

Hooked on phonics are we?
cant read the distinction between sms and bbm?

maybe you should drop the hooked on phonics course.
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Old 11-18-2009, 05:56 PM   #171
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Please. I tried it and after almost killing myself I gave up.
further proof that you're very far from tech savvy, or even know what you're doing.

unlike google.com computers are not for everyone, nor are mobile devices, or cars for that fact.

tho most people can attain any of the above this does not merit they are tech savvy, know how to drive, or are signs of intelligence. its not a merit badge you show you know what you're talking about.
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Old 11-18-2009, 06:10 PM   #172
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BES is crap -- a clumsy, high-maintenance, high cost product to sync mobile and desktop PIM data right? Without getting crazy about it -- that's basically it right?

I'm sorry jsconyers now I understand why you are so pissed off. Google cloudware basically makes your job obsolete. Modern day Luddites the lot of you! If it's any consolation you are not alone -- technological advancements always displace people and render entire industries irrelevant. Your resistance is expected, predictable even.
How is BES crap? First, you admittedly said you don't know what it is and you further proved that by posting an irrelevant link. You cannot say it is clumsy, high maintenance, or anything seeing as you have NEVER used it. You know absolutely NOTHING about it.

Please provide personal experience telling me how it is clunky and high maintenance. Until then, please do not speak upon things you know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about!

For about the 32nd time in this thread, you are WRONG. I am not pissed off. I have no reason to be. I deal with people that don't know what they're talking about and act like they do on a daily basis. I'm quite used to it. If you knew anything about working in the I.T field (which it's pretty evident that you do not) then you would know that you grow with the field. Again, I am not concerned with Google. My line of work is within the Government, I highly doubt they would ever trust Google with their data. I am not saying the Cloud is not the future, however, I am saying that it has a ways to go.

For you, it works. For everyone else, it may not. You do realize that not everyone sees things as you do, right?
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i just need to know one thing, what was Belichick thinking on sunday.
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i just need to know one thing, what was Belichick thinking on sunday.
Hahaha. Who knows, it was a bad call. He made a bad decision. Much like Apache's decision to purchase a BlackBerry.
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Apache,

Let me attempt to inform/educate you on what a BES can do.

I can lookup any email address for anyone within our global address book. I don't need to have their address stored on my device. I can access intranet sites, internal sites from my device. I can delete email from my device and keep them on my mail client. Then I can search for the email from the device and see it. I don't need to store it on my device. I can keep my device much more clean and organized this way.

I can search other user's calenders when scheduling appointments to see if their free at that time. Yes, I can do a busy search for other users from MY BlackBerry. I can see and store email in other folders and have them synchronize back to the mailbox and vice versa. Can Google do all of this?

That's all without going into security, I am not even going to touch that, because there's nothing out there that compares in that category. So keep trying....
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Hahaha. Who knows, it was a bad call. He made a bad decision. Much like Apache's decision to purchase a BlackBerry.
Another yard on the spot and he would have been a hero.
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Another yard on the spot and he would have been a hero.
i swore the colts were done and brady was going for moss or welker not faulk.
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Old 11-19-2009, 02:11 AM   #178
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CoDudette you are sexy
I know. I was born with good looks. lucky me. of course, sidetracking what i had said was probably your way of again.. as everyone has said avoiding the fact you are probably wrong.

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What? haha -- don't get overly Freudian friend, I simply think CoDudette is sexy and want her to pull on my mullet that's all
Aww fanks mate, but anyone who resorts to name calling as a means of defense doesn't get my vote. so as *tempting* as the offer sounds of pulling your oh so *sexy* mullet, i'l give it a miss.

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Maybe she will share her PIN with you!!! Oh wait....you'll have a droid....
DAMNIT! now how will i be able to indulge in meaningful conversation with him?

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I'm glad you brought up BBM. It is STUPID. There is no point other than some weird feeling of belonging to a "special BlackBerry club." Text or email serve the exact same purpose.

I don't want her PIN. I want her to pin me.
BBM is stupid? Wow.. Ok then. You're really anti blackberry.
Shucks you're breaking my heart. You don't want my pin.. and here i was SO ready to send it to you. you're hurting my feelings.
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Wirelessly posted

This thread is like a bad car wreck. I know I should just drive by, but I can't help but to slow down and look.
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This thread is like a bad car wreck. I know I should just drive by, but I can't help but to slow down and look.
To that..



Not that I need to defend the BES.. but it has to be by far the least high maintenanced server in my environment. It just sits their a runs the only time I mess with it when I have to add a user/change device.

I guess it all depends on if it was setup correctly or not.
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